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There are a number of possible scenarios for file storage, the problem is a lack of clarity or documentation about the properties of the various locations as th

There are a number of possible scenarios for file storage, the problem is a lack of clarity or documentation about the properties of the various locations as they stand now. As a developer, I could imagine desiring the following choices: 1. Temp: No backup, cleared regularly 2. Cache: No backup, cleared when space is tight 3. Local: Local backup only, never cleared 4. Documents: Local/cloud backup, never cleared 5. Cloud: Cloud backup, cleared when space is tight The problem seems to be that #3 doesn't exist. Yet you'd think it would be a common requirement for stuff like in-app purchases of large and essential content packs, for example, turn-by-turn navigation maps. I'd hate to be on holiday and have a 10 megabyte podcast download automatically trigger the erasure of 1000 megabytes of navigation data.

mw1234 15y ago
You are missing "No backup, never cleared" which is what the old "2. Cache" scenario used to be.
- sjwright 15y ago
  I disagree. If it's not worth backing up (locally), it doesn't deserve protected status on the phone. Or to put it another way, if it's important enough to retain when storage space is low, it's important enough to retain for when you have to recover from a backup.
  - hboon 15y ago
    You left out the case of storing data for offline use, which is one of the key use of Instapaper, offline maps, cached notebooks, etc. If I stored something specifically for offline use, I want it to be available as long as my device is with me, even when I'm offline. (1) Some of it is important as you say, and they should be backed-up, but (2) some are important, but is capable of being downloaded again and shouldn't be backed up and shouldn't'. The latter is the one that is now automatically cleaned up.
  - mw1234 15y ago
    I think that is a decision best left to the developer or user. Take an app that syncs your photos from a site you may already use, like Picasa, Flickr or SmugMug. You want to have these available on your iPad or iPhone instantly, even when you are without internet service. But you don't need them backed up to your computer every time you sync, causing the backup times to skyrocket, and if you lose them on a restore, it's a minor inconvenience, but not a huge deal. Losing them unexpectedly when you don't have the time or ability to re-downlaod them is a much more major problem for some people.
  - sjwright 15y ago
    Interesting, I appear to have been voted down for a calm and considered opinion.

mw1234 15y ago

You are missing "No backup, never cleared" which is what the old "2. Cache" scenario used to be.

sjwright 15y ago
I disagree. If it's not worth backing up (locally), it doesn't deserve protected status on the phone. Or to put it another way, if it's important enough to retain when storage space is low, it's important enough to retain for when you have to recover from a backup.
- hboon 15y ago
  You left out the case of storing data for offline use, which is one of the key use of Instapaper, offline maps, cached notebooks, etc. If I stored something specifically for offline use, I want it to be available as long as my device is with me, even when I'm offline. (1) Some of it is important as you say, and they should be backed-up, but (2) some are important, but is capable of being downloaded again and shouldn't be backed up and shouldn't'. The latter is the one that is now automatically cleaned up.
- mw1234 15y ago
  I think that is a decision best left to the developer or user. Take an app that syncs your photos from a site you may already use, like Picasa, Flickr or SmugMug. You want to have these available on your iPad or iPhone instantly, even when you are without internet service. But you don't need them backed up to your computer every time you sync, causing the backup times to skyrocket, and if you lose them on a restore, it's a minor inconvenience, but not a huge deal. Losing them unexpectedly when you don't have the time or ability to re-downlaod them is a much more major problem for some people.
- sjwright 15y ago
  Interesting, I appear to have been voted down for a calm and considered opinion.