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Apart from the second bullet point there, am I the only one who thinks this shows an incredible lack of awareness? Why is it that people are so put off by inclu

by epgui 5y ago

Apart from the second bullet point there, am I the only one who thinks this shows an incredible lack of awareness? Why is it that people are so put off by inclusion? As far as the political stuff, I can't help but think you're being over-sensitive to things that are actually rather banal and moderate.

ceeplusplus 5y ago
It's performative inclusion. If it was actual inclusion then other races like Middle Eastern/Asian/etc people would be included. But those people have been deemed by wokes to be "too white" so they're not "people of color" anymore. What exactly are you calling awareness here? Racial quotas for actors?
- epgui 5y ago
  I’ll agree with you partially here, but only because the goal posts have moved. I particularly object to the label “woke”, which I just find unproductively derisive, and juvenile.
- n4r9 5y ago
  There are plenty of Netflix shows with leading Asian characters: https://www.popsugar.co.uk/entertainment/netflix-original-tv-shows-with-strong-asian-leads-48342000 https://www.popsugar.co.uk/entertainment/netflix-original-tv...
- antifa 5y ago
  One of my favorite new netflix shows has a half asian lead, the other half presumably white.
selfmodruntime 5y ago
I like inclusion when it's actual inclusion and not pandering. Like Paul and Hugh in Star Trek: Discovery. They are both good characters in their own right who also happen to be gay by complete chance. Because as a bi man that's exactly what I feel: There's so much more to me than my sexuality, something I had absolute 0 choice in. It gets bad however in other shows when gay characters exist just to be gay and that's all they are, no character beyond that.
- epgui 5y ago
  I can't say that I remember feeling that LGBTQ+ characters were out of place in many movies or shows (I'm a straight white dude). One I particularly enjoyed was the character of Taylor Mason in Billions. Just an incredible character.

by epgui 5y ago

ceeplusplus 5y ago

It's performative inclusion. If it was actual inclusion then other races like Middle Eastern/Asian/etc people would be included. But those people have been deemed by wokes to be "too white" so they're not "people of color" anymore. What exactly are you calling awareness here? Racial quotas for actors?

epgui 5y ago
I’ll agree with you partially here, but only because the goal posts have moved. I particularly object to the label “woke”, which I just find unproductively derisive, and juvenile.
n4r9 5y ago
There are plenty of Netflix shows with leading Asian characters: https://www.popsugar.co.uk/entertainment/netflix-original-tv-shows-with-strong-asian-leads-48342000 https://www.popsugar.co.uk/entertainment/netflix-original-tv...
antifa 5y ago
One of my favorite new netflix shows has a half asian lead, the other half presumably white.

selfmodruntime 5y ago

I like inclusion when it's actual inclusion and not pandering. Like Paul and Hugh in Star Trek: Discovery. They are both good characters in their own right who also happen to be gay by complete chance. Because as a bi man that's exactly what I feel: There's so much more to me than my sexuality, something I had absolute 0 choice in. It gets bad however in other shows when gay characters exist just to be gay and that's all they are, no character beyond that.

epgui 5y ago
I can't say that I remember feeling that LGBTQ+ characters were out of place in many movies or shows (I'm a straight white dude). One I particularly enjoyed was the character of Taylor Mason in Billions. Just an incredible character.