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> I do not think it is unreasonable to expect a brand new laptop to ship with either of them. For a Dell, HP, or other multinational conglomerate who gets new

> I do not think it is unreasonable to expect a brand new laptop to ship with either of them. For a Dell, HP, or other multinational conglomerate who gets new chipsets in advance from Intel and always has a dozen or more models on the never ending merry-go-round of 'hype the new, dump last seasons at Costco on the people who don't know any better', no, it's not unreasonable. For a small batch manufacturer who's been shipping laptops less then a year and is still effectively on their first model release? All in the middle of a pandemic induced supply chain fiasco? It kind of is.

babypuncher 4y ago
Maybe for Alder Lake, but Zen 3 has been around for an eternity, and is already on the cusp of being succeeded by Zen 4. Zen 3 is also so much better than 11th gen Intel that I struggle to understand why any manufacturer would have chosen Intel for their new flagship laptop in 2021.
- yata69420 4y ago
  This is spot on. If Framework offered Zen 3 and 120hz+ display, I would absolutely buy one immediately.
  - Sebb767 4y ago
    On any thread on framework, comments in the form of "I'd buy one right now if it had X" are probably the most common, for quite a few X ;-) That being said, I'm also waiting for an AMD CPU. Given that it is the most requested feature, though, I assume they'll be there in the next iteration.
- csdreamer7 4y ago
  > Maybe for Alder Lake, but Zen 3 has been around for an eternity 5000 series Zen 3 has on desktop. Zen 3 based 6000 series laptops with RDNA2 graphics are still newish and a little difficult to get. Even from tier-1 brands. AMD was also a little late to getting Linux support into these computers. 5.17 (released a few weeks ago and is what Fedora 36 will release with) just got support into the Ethernet driver. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.17-AMD-YC-Ethernet https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.... Mobile Alder Lake just launched (in Feb?). Don't confuse the desktop with the mobile variants-especially when you are considering driver support.

babypuncher 4y ago

Maybe for Alder Lake, but Zen 3 has been around for an eternity, and is already on the cusp of being succeeded by Zen 4. Zen 3 is also so much better than 11th gen Intel that I struggle to understand why any manufacturer would have chosen Intel for their new flagship laptop in 2021.

yata69420 4y ago
This is spot on. If Framework offered Zen 3 and 120hz+ display, I would absolutely buy one immediately.
- Sebb767 4y ago
  On any thread on framework, comments in the form of "I'd buy one right now if it had X" are probably the most common, for quite a few X ;-) That being said, I'm also waiting for an AMD CPU. Given that it is the most requested feature, though, I assume they'll be there in the next iteration.
csdreamer7 4y ago
> Maybe for Alder Lake, but Zen 3 has been around for an eternity 5000 series Zen 3 has on desktop. Zen 3 based 6000 series laptops with RDNA2 graphics are still newish and a little difficult to get. Even from tier-1 brands. AMD was also a little late to getting Linux support into these computers. 5.17 (released a few weeks ago and is what Fedora 36 will release with) just got support into the Ethernet driver. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.17-AMD-YC-Ethernet https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.... Mobile Alder Lake just launched (in Feb?). Don't confuse the desktop with the mobile variants-especially when you are considering driver support.