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I gave it a shot at one startup using next.js that wanted to pre-hydrate redux state, but also use tracking with session cookies et al the regular bag of beans.

I gave it a shot at one startup using next.js that wanted to pre-hydrate redux state, but also use tracking with session cookies et al the regular bag of beans. I spent maybe 6 weeks on it and basically I grew to realize I was in a miasma of pain. I didn't last much longer. I could've wrote the entire thing just vanilla js/css in probably a weekend... So I can commiserate with this.

jamal-kumar 4y ago
I love starting off projects in vanilla JS because they actually get to a workable state most of the time without a lot of effort. Most of the time when you write stuff in vanilla js/ts you can just fit that logic in to a react or vue or whatever application framework afterwards if you really need all those bells and whistles. I think a lot of people start things off thinking they NEED to have all the authentication, cookies etc sorted out from the get go when really you just need your ideas in a working form first and stuff like HTTP basic auth is mighty fine for development
heavyset_go 4y ago
I'm always impressed by the labyrinthine towers of JS and frameworks people create to ship out relatively simple sites and web apps. By impressed, I mean that I look upon them both in awe and in horror. And I'm guilty of building them myself, as well. One of the worst things is opening such a project that was written 5+ years ago by someone other than yourself.
- lelanthran 4y ago
  >I'm always impressed by the labyrinthine towers of JS and frameworks people create to ship out relatively simple sites and web apps. By impressed, I mean that I look upon them both in awe and in horror. Well, then... brace yourself for the one[1] I intend to release in a month or so. I've been working on/off it for the last three years.[2] I'm hoping next month to actually build an application with it :-/ [1] A component library for client-side elements. [2] Spent about 8 hours in total on it, over three years[3]. Sometimes I need a deadline to finish stuff. Don't judge me, no one's perfect :-) [3] Still think it took fewer hours than learning React.

jamal-kumar 4y ago

I love starting off projects in vanilla JS because they actually get to a workable state most of the time without a lot of effort. Most of the time when you write stuff in vanilla js/ts you can just fit that logic in to a react or vue or whatever application framework afterwards if you really need all those bells and whistles. I think a lot of people start things off thinking they NEED to have all the authentication, cookies etc sorted out from the get go when really you just need your ideas in a working form first and stuff like HTTP basic auth is mighty fine for development

heavyset_go 4y ago

I'm always impressed by the labyrinthine towers of JS and frameworks people create to ship out relatively simple sites and web apps. By impressed, I mean that I look upon them both in awe and in horror. And I'm guilty of building them myself, as well. One of the worst things is opening such a project that was written 5+ years ago by someone other than yourself.

lelanthran 4y ago
>I'm always impressed by the labyrinthine towers of JS and frameworks people create to ship out relatively simple sites and web apps. By impressed, I mean that I look upon them both in awe and in horror. Well, then... brace yourself for the one[1] I intend to release in a month or so. I've been working on/off it for the last three years.[2] I'm hoping next month to actually build an application with it :-/ [1] A component library for client-side elements. [2] Spent about 8 hours in total on it, over three years[3]. Sometimes I need a deadline to finish stuff. Don't judge me, no one's perfect :-) [3] Still think it took fewer hours than learning React.