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Even just supporting first-party titles would go a long way. In the particular case of Nintendo, many, if not most, of the most universally acclaimed classics a

Even just supporting first-party titles would go a long way. In the particular case of Nintendo, many, if not most, of the most universally acclaimed classics are first-party games.

mattl 5y ago
What first party NES and SNES games are you missing from NSO?
- mathgeek 5y ago
  The games in question are for handheld systems (Game Boy and Game Boy Advance, specifically).
  - mattl 5y ago
    Seems like the sentiment is that Nintendo should have all their first party titles available.
- initplus 5y ago
  Why would any sane consumer purchase those games when Nintendo has no track record of honoring purchases? Nintendo aggressively cuts off access to consumers past purchases in the hopes that they buy the same retro games again on the new system. Not just by not sharing retro game purchases between systems, but also not even letting consumers still download their purchases on older systems. It's like buying a book that's set to self-destruct a decade from now - no sane consumer would buy such a product.
  - mattl 5y ago
    I bought a couple of Virtual Console games on the Wii. Those same games were transferred to my Wii U system with an SD card. The same games are now included on the Nintendo Switch Online service and many others too.
    - maybeOneDay 5y ago
      Which is to say: you had to wait for years for them to come out on Switch, and then pay again. Forever.
      - mattl 5y ago
        No, I’m pretty sure they were available very early after I bought the Switch console. Maybe within a year? Late 2006 I bought the Wii and then the Wii U in 2014 and now I pay the family plan at maybe $70 a year? Doesn’t seem different to buying songs on iTunes in 2006 and now paying for Apple Music every month now.
        maybeOneDay 5y ago
        It was 18 months between launch of the Switch and of NSO, so we can split the difference :) I disagree. You should as far as I'm aware be able to still use those songs
        mattl 5y ago
        Depending on where you live it’s very possible iTunes songs had DRM in 2006 so you’re limited to playing those everywhere. Does anyone do this as you’d like to see it with software? Maybe Valve?
        maybeOneDay 5y ago
        I agree that DRM isn't ideal either. Well, it's not that anyone is necessarily perfect. But the other major console players certainly seem better - if I bought a PS4 game a few years ago then I can reasonably expect to still play it on PS6 and probably onwards. X360 games have been brought back to life by MSoft. Steam is generally pretty good yeah but it doesn't have the issue of consecutive consoles to deal with.
        mattl 5y ago
  - LukeShu 5y ago
    NSO is a subscription, not a "purchase". There are good arguments to be made against subscriptions in comparison to purchases, but lots of "sane consumers" do buy in to such subscriptions with volatile content libraries that might have pieces of content self-destruct at any time (Netflix and Hulu). Plus, an NSO subscription is needed for online play, so many consumers have subscribed to NSO to play online with their friends, and access to the NES and SNES libraries is a freebie bonus.

Even just supporting first-party titles would go a long way. In the particular case of Nintendo, many, if not most, of the most universally acclaimed classics are first-party games.

mattl 5y ago

What first party NES and SNES games are you missing from NSO?

mathgeek 5y ago
The games in question are for handheld systems (Game Boy and Game Boy Advance, specifically).
- mattl 5y ago
  Seems like the sentiment is that Nintendo should have all their first party titles available.
initplus 5y ago
Why would any sane consumer purchase those games when Nintendo has no track record of honoring purchases? Nintendo aggressively cuts off access to consumers past purchases in the hopes that they buy the same retro games again on the new system. Not just by not sharing retro game purchases between systems, but also not even letting consumers still download their purchases on older systems. It's like buying a book that's set to self-destruct a decade from now - no sane consumer would buy such a product.
- mattl 5y ago
  I bought a couple of Virtual Console games on the Wii. Those same games were transferred to my Wii U system with an SD card. The same games are now included on the Nintendo Switch Online service and many others too.
  - maybeOneDay 5y ago
    Which is to say: you had to wait for years for them to come out on Switch, and then pay again. Forever.
    - mattl 5y ago
      No, I’m pretty sure they were available very early after I bought the Switch console. Maybe within a year? Late 2006 I bought the Wii and then the Wii U in 2014 and now I pay the family plan at maybe $70 a year? Doesn’t seem different to buying songs on iTunes in 2006 and now paying for Apple Music every month now.
      - maybeOneDay 5y ago
        It was 18 months between launch of the Switch and of NSO, so we can split the difference :) I disagree. You should as far as I'm aware be able to still use those songs
        mattl 5y ago
        Depending on where you live it’s very possible iTunes songs had DRM in 2006 so you’re limited to playing those everywhere. Does anyone do this as you’d like to see it with software? Maybe Valve?
        maybeOneDay 5y ago
        I agree that DRM isn't ideal either. Well, it's not that anyone is necessarily perfect. But the other major console players certainly seem better - if I bought a PS4 game a few years ago then I can reasonably expect to still play it on PS6 and probably onwards. X360 games have been brought back to life by MSoft. Steam is generally pretty good yeah but it doesn't have the issue of consecutive consoles to deal with.
        mattl 5y ago
- LukeShu 5y ago
  NSO is a subscription, not a "purchase". There are good arguments to be made against subscriptions in comparison to purchases, but lots of "sane consumers" do buy in to such subscriptions with volatile content libraries that might have pieces of content self-destruct at any time (Netflix and Hulu). Plus, an NSO subscription is needed for online play, so many consumers have subscribed to NSO to play online with their friends, and access to the NES and SNES libraries is a freebie bonus.