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The CC licenses should probably be adjusted to make a DMCA attempt a permanent revocation of license. That way DMCAs can flow in the opposite direction and peop

The CC licenses should probably be adjusted to make a DMCA attempt a permanent revocation of license. That way DMCAs can flow in the opposite direction and people can learn things.

Nextgrid 4y ago
Realistically speaking, you’d still need to enforce breaches of whatever license you choose but most open-source projects don’t have the resources to pursue those cases. Maybe there’s a case for a consortium of open-source projects that can pool its resources and serve as an insurance policy to fight back against license violations or malicious/stupid DMCA takedowns.
- smorgusofborg 4y ago
  Whenever you file a DMCA appeal with GitHub/etc you would have the option to file a takedown on the jack ass. Some projects doing it occasionally would trigger the right conservative fears at corporations to reduce the market.
- anyfactor 4y ago
  We have so many organizations but in the last 2 decades nobody has thought of creating colloborative legal fund and insurance system to combat and in many cases enforce licensing violation. Open source projects should have a kind of union of their own. Then again I wonder if it would ever be possible because corporate money has became a key donation source and in many cases many OS projects themselves have become corporatized.
  - sciurus 4y ago
    There are organizations that help with license enforcement, e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy
    - Nicksil 4y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy
josephcsible 4y ago
We already have precedent for this kind of thing too, for patents. For example, the Mozilla Public License says this: > If You initiate litigation against any entity by asserting a patent infringement claim (excluding declaratory judgment actions, counter-claims, and cross-claims) alleging that a Contributor Version directly or indirectly infringes any patent, then the rights granted to You by any and all Contributors for the Covered Software under Section 2.1 of this License shall terminate.
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The CC licenses should probably be adjusted to make a DMCA attempt a permanent revocation of license. That way DMCAs can flow in the opposite direction and people can learn things.

Nextgrid 4y ago

Realistically speaking, you’d still need to enforce breaches of whatever license you choose but most open-source projects don’t have the resources to pursue those cases. Maybe there’s a case for a consortium of open-source projects that can pool its resources and serve as an insurance policy to fight back against license violations or malicious/stupid DMCA takedowns.

smorgusofborg 4y ago
Whenever you file a DMCA appeal with GitHub/etc you would have the option to file a takedown on the jack ass. Some projects doing it occasionally would trigger the right conservative fears at corporations to reduce the market.
anyfactor 4y ago
We have so many organizations but in the last 2 decades nobody has thought of creating colloborative legal fund and insurance system to combat and in many cases enforce licensing violation. Open source projects should have a kind of union of their own. Then again I wonder if it would ever be possible because corporate money has became a key donation source and in many cases many OS projects themselves have become corporatized.
- sciurus 4y ago
  There are organizations that help with license enforcement, e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy
  - Nicksil 4y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy

josephcsible 4y ago

We already have precedent for this kind of thing too, for patents. For example, the Mozilla Public License says this: > If You initiate litigation against any entity by asserting a patent infringement claim (excluding declaratory judgment actions, counter-claims, and cross-claims) alleging that a Contributor Version directly or indirectly infringes any patent, then the rights granted to You by any and all Contributors for the Covered Software under Section 2.1 of this License shall terminate.

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