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The author wrote critiques of mediawiki, tiddly, but what about Doku? It's mentioned in the article but I was wondering what's bad about doku since the setup pr

The author wrote critiques of mediawiki, tiddly, but what about Doku? It's mentioned in the article but I was wondering what's bad about doku since the setup process isn't too bad imo.

hales 4y ago
(I'm the author of Minisleep) It's been many years, so my memory is a bit rusty. I think I recall it being fiddly to upload images for a page and possibly the themes were complex to modify (?) (I didn't like the default and wanted to make something simpler). I can't be certain, I have not tried Doku in years. It looks like a lot of places use it now and its seeing success.
- dumpsterlid 4y ago
  Photos are now very simple to upload to Dokuwiki. There are a decent bit of themes too, I havent tried creating my own though.
dumpsterlid 4y ago
I don't understand why Dokuwiki isn't more popular. It is super easy to use, there are a good bit of themes and plugins that can be installed through the GUI, it loads pictures fine (and has a little picture tracker interface where you can browse uploaded photos), you can use the farmer plugin to multiple seperate wikis on the same website and it doesn't require a database (all the pages just sit in a folder you can copy/backup anyway you like) so it is stupid simple to backup. I think it is kind of a shame really, Dokuwiki is a beautiful bit of software in my opinion.
- jambutters 4y ago
  Yep, compared to MediaWiki(last time I set it up was like ~7 years ago) it was such a hassle to setup. I think my main complaint about Doku is that it's built on PHP. I haven't tried to hardcore customize things other than installing plugins and templates though so I can't say how easy it is to extend.
  - unicornporn 4y ago
    > I think my main complaint about Doku is that it's built on PHP. How is that a complaint? PHP is thoroughly battle tested and works on any cheap shared hosting. It's the perfect choice.
    - mro_name 4y ago
      personally I try to avoid all dependencies (except a mere webserver, naturally) when it comes to reading. I love the dokuwiki no-db filesystem storage approach, however.

The author wrote critiques of mediawiki, tiddly, but what about Doku? It's mentioned in the article but I was wondering what's bad about doku since the setup process isn't too bad imo.

hales 4y ago

(I'm the author of Minisleep) It's been many years, so my memory is a bit rusty. I think I recall it being fiddly to upload images for a page and possibly the themes were complex to modify (?) (I didn't like the default and wanted to make something simpler). I can't be certain, I have not tried Doku in years. It looks like a lot of places use it now and its seeing success.

dumpsterlid 4y ago
Photos are now very simple to upload to Dokuwiki. There are a decent bit of themes too, I havent tried creating my own though.

dumpsterlid 4y ago

I don't understand why Dokuwiki isn't more popular. It is super easy to use, there are a good bit of themes and plugins that can be installed through the GUI, it loads pictures fine (and has a little picture tracker interface where you can browse uploaded photos), you can use the farmer plugin to multiple seperate wikis on the same website and it doesn't require a database (all the pages just sit in a folder you can copy/backup anyway you like) so it is stupid simple to backup. I think it is kind of a shame really, Dokuwiki is a beautiful bit of software in my opinion.

jambutters 4y ago
Yep, compared to MediaWiki(last time I set it up was like ~7 years ago) it was such a hassle to setup. I think my main complaint about Doku is that it's built on PHP. I haven't tried to hardcore customize things other than installing plugins and templates though so I can't say how easy it is to extend.
- unicornporn 4y ago
  > I think my main complaint about Doku is that it's built on PHP. How is that a complaint? PHP is thoroughly battle tested and works on any cheap shared hosting. It's the perfect choice.
  - mro_name 4y ago
    personally I try to avoid all dependencies (except a mere webserver, naturally) when it comes to reading. I love the dokuwiki no-db filesystem storage approach, however.