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Can it be turned off? It sounds like a fine optional feature and an annoying required one. If I'm writing something, I certainly don't want the word processor c

Can it be turned off? It sounds like a fine optional feature and an annoying required one. If I'm writing something, I certainly don't want the word processor constantly throwing up modals ruining my train of thought. Reminds me of Clippy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Assistant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Assistant

Kye 5y ago
Defaults matter because few people change from it. If everyone zigs because the dominant software defaults to it and you want to zag, you're fighting against that current. Real world example: Twitter got even worse once they bullied everyone into algorithmic feeds by changing it back from chronological until people gave up and left it.
shadowgovt 5y ago
It doesn't sound more intrusive than the existing red-squiggle for spelling errors.
- rurp 5y ago
  Spelling errors usually have an objective fix and are isolated to a single word. Warning about an improper word depends on the surrounding context and is highly subjective. The latter case requires a great deal more cognitive load to deal with and I think it will be much more distracting.
  - shadowgovt 5y ago
    > usually have an objective fix Well, nowadays. Keeping in mind that the only reason English spelling is standardized in 2022 is the waves of intentional English language spelling standardizations that occurred in the 17th, 19th, and 20th centuries, each of which was supported by dictionaries, education programs, and a general messaging that it would be the intelligent thing to do to get on board with the standard. I can't help but wonder if people decried the idea of standardization back then. "It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word." ~Andrew Jackson, 1833 (... typing these sentences has triggered my spell-checker three times. I have accepted two suggestions and taken the liberty of disagreeing with the third, after a cross-check with my dictionary to confirm my spelling). ;)
- codesternews 5y ago
  https://twitter.com/thecitywanderer/status/1516176983549530122 https://twitter.com/thecitywanderer/status/15161769835495301... This is how it starts. What else will they push and censor.
  - drewrv 5y ago
    Next thing you know there will be actual laws that ban what can be said in schools, books being banned, and laws that allow drivers to run over protesters. Fortunately the people who are vigilant about Twitter moderation policies and word processor features are acting in good faith and will be outraged by actual government attempts to stifle speech.
    - azinman2 5y ago
      You forgot the /s
    - Clubber 5y ago
      >ban what can be said in schools So if you are referring to the "Don't say gay," law, you should actually read it. Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards. That's the actual text. I don't see how you could possibly think that is an appropriate subject for a 3rd grader, much less a kindergartner. The partisan hyperbole around it is ridiculous on both sides. >books being banned Like Huckleberry Finn? Agree, books shouldn't be banned. Well maybe Mein Kampf and The Turner Diaries. Maybe some shouldn't be taught in public schools, right? How about the Bible? Should that be excluded from the public school corriculum? No screening of A Birth of a Nation you'd agree with? It's not like they're removing them from public libraries or the internet. What is taught in public schools vs what is allowed to be said in a public forum are quite different things as well. >laws that allow drivers to run over protesters I don't think that is a free speech issue, plus you are misrepresenting this legislation as well. It's not like a democrat can run over a GOP protestor or vice versa, I believe there has to be an actual threat involved like a group encircling your vehicle baseball bats. Here's the issue with your argument, you are arguing with an imaginary person. That's like a GOP person saying something like, "libs are socialist!" It's a huge generalization and mis-catagorization. It's an emotional, misinformed argument rather than a rational one, and you are doing the same thing. You're consuming too much news / opinion. Take a break from it, most of it isn't that great for you. I fell into the same trap when I was younger.
- Minor49er 5y ago
  Given the username, I'm not sure if this comment is ironic or not
  - shadowgovt 5y ago
    If you like the username, you should listen to the song. The punchline is that the protagonist spends his life paranoid about shadow organizations watching his every move. In the end, he ends up dead in the trunk of a local strongman who gets away with it because there is no greater order in the world to save or harm him.
    - Minor49er 5y ago
      That's awesome. I can't say I've ever really listened to They Might Be Giants but the video for it in your profile is hilarious
cato_the_elder 5y ago
> Can it be turned off? Maybe it can be turned off, but the do you dare to turn it off at work?
- uoaei 5y ago
  - cato_the_elder 5y ago
    > Nothing, that's what. If they did, it would hit them where it hurts, so they won't. I hope that's true. > silly imaginary culture-war one It may be silly, but it's certainly not imaginary. Have you watched a Netflix show recently?
    - uoaei 5y ago
      > Have you watched a Netflix show recently? Nice dog whistle you got there. I haven't seen anything I would consider "culture war" in the popular representations of fictional characters today, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about.
      - cato_the_elder 5y ago
        What do you mean by dog whistle? It's literally an important part of the actual thing. And I'm not the only one noticing this: https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1516600269899026432?cxt=HHwWgMC-maD6hYwqAAAA https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/15166002698990264...
  - yucky 5y ago
    >silly imaginary culture-war ones You mean like what Google imagines they're accomplishing with this sort of thing..?
- theduder99 5y ago
  don't worry, leadership will ensure that flag is permanently enabled via AD group policy and no longer user editable.

Kye 5y ago

Defaults matter because few people change from it. If everyone zigs because the dominant software defaults to it and you want to zag, you're fighting against that current. Real world example: Twitter got even worse once they bullied everyone into algorithmic feeds by changing it back from chronological until people gave up and left it.

shadowgovt 5y ago

It doesn't sound more intrusive than the existing red-squiggle for spelling errors.

rurp 5y ago
Spelling errors usually have an objective fix and are isolated to a single word. Warning about an improper word depends on the surrounding context and is highly subjective. The latter case requires a great deal more cognitive load to deal with and I think it will be much more distracting.
- shadowgovt 5y ago
  > usually have an objective fix Well, nowadays. Keeping in mind that the only reason English spelling is standardized in 2022 is the waves of intentional English language spelling standardizations that occurred in the 17th, 19th, and 20th centuries, each of which was supported by dictionaries, education programs, and a general messaging that it would be the intelligent thing to do to get on board with the standard. I can't help but wonder if people decried the idea of standardization back then. "It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word." ~Andrew Jackson, 1833 (... typing these sentences has triggered my spell-checker three times. I have accepted two suggestions and taken the liberty of disagreeing with the third, after a cross-check with my dictionary to confirm my spelling). ;)
codesternews 5y ago
https://twitter.com/thecitywanderer/status/1516176983549530122 https://twitter.com/thecitywanderer/status/15161769835495301... This is how it starts. What else will they push and censor.
- drewrv 5y ago
  Next thing you know there will be actual laws that ban what can be said in schools, books being banned, and laws that allow drivers to run over protesters. Fortunately the people who are vigilant about Twitter moderation policies and word processor features are acting in good faith and will be outraged by actual government attempts to stifle speech.
  - azinman2 5y ago
    You forgot the /s
  - Clubber 5y ago
    >ban what can be said in schools So if you are referring to the "Don't say gay," law, you should actually read it. Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards. That's the actual text. I don't see how you could possibly think that is an appropriate subject for a 3rd grader, much less a kindergartner. The partisan hyperbole around it is ridiculous on both sides. >books being banned Like Huckleberry Finn? Agree, books shouldn't be banned. Well maybe Mein Kampf and The Turner Diaries. Maybe some shouldn't be taught in public schools, right? How about the Bible? Should that be excluded from the public school corriculum? No screening of A Birth of a Nation you'd agree with? It's not like they're removing them from public libraries or the internet. What is taught in public schools vs what is allowed to be said in a public forum are quite different things as well. >laws that allow drivers to run over protesters I don't think that is a free speech issue, plus you are misrepresenting this legislation as well. It's not like a democrat can run over a GOP protestor or vice versa, I believe there has to be an actual threat involved like a group encircling your vehicle baseball bats. Here's the issue with your argument, you are arguing with an imaginary person. That's like a GOP person saying something like, "libs are socialist!" It's a huge generalization and mis-catagorization. It's an emotional, misinformed argument rather than a rational one, and you are doing the same thing. You're consuming too much news / opinion. Take a break from it, most of it isn't that great for you. I fell into the same trap when I was younger.
Minor49er 5y ago
Given the username, I'm not sure if this comment is ironic or not
- shadowgovt 5y ago
  If you like the username, you should listen to the song. The punchline is that the protagonist spends his life paranoid about shadow organizations watching his every move. In the end, he ends up dead in the trunk of a local strongman who gets away with it because there is no greater order in the world to save or harm him.
  - Minor49er 5y ago
    That's awesome. I can't say I've ever really listened to They Might Be Giants but the video for it in your profile is hilarious

cato_the_elder 5y ago

> Can it be turned off? Maybe it can be turned off, but the do you dare to turn it off at work?

uoaei 5y ago
- cato_the_elder 5y ago
  > Nothing, that's what. If they did, it would hit them where it hurts, so they won't. I hope that's true. > silly imaginary culture-war one It may be silly, but it's certainly not imaginary. Have you watched a Netflix show recently?
  - uoaei 5y ago
    > Have you watched a Netflix show recently? Nice dog whistle you got there. I haven't seen anything I would consider "culture war" in the popular representations of fictional characters today, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about.
    - cato_the_elder 5y ago
      What do you mean by dog whistle? It's literally an important part of the actual thing. And I'm not the only one noticing this: https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1516600269899026432?cxt=HHwWgMC-maD6hYwqAAAA https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/15166002698990264...
- yucky 5y ago
  >silly imaginary culture-war ones You mean like what Google imagines they're accomplishing with this sort of thing..?
theduder99 5y ago
don't worry, leadership will ensure that flag is permanently enabled via AD group policy and no longer user editable.