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> Not even gonna get into that whole "NATO expansion" clusterfuck. If you think a fascist dictatorship should have veto powers over which defensive alliances it

by cies 5y ago

> Not even gonna get into that whole "NATO expansion" clusterfuck. If you think a fascist dictatorship should have veto powers over which defensive alliances its democratic neighbours voluntarily choose to join, there's not much there left to discuss. Russia now a "fascist dictatorship"? Hmm... What about a western democracy (US) that claims "veto powers over which defensive alliances its" neighour (Cuba) has? But than it is different, right, when it is Nato, and it has scared it's population shitless for "the communists". Then it is allowed to invade... Yeah right. To me Russia invading Ukraine is like US invading Cuba: you could see it coming from miles ahead. The big bad agressor's "security needs".

kspacewalk2 5y ago
While I disagree with the trade blockade, I don't think there's any equivalence here. We don't know what Cuba wants any more than we know what Belarus or North Korea wants. We can approximately equate the country with the people in terms of 'wants' and actions only if the country is actually ran by its people, democratically. Cuba is controlled by a totalitarian regime, and its people cannot decide on which defensive alliances to join because the Cuban government doesn't ask them. >To me Russia invading Ukraine is like US invading Cuba: you could see it coming from miles ahead. The big bad agressor's "security needs". Except the US did not invade Cuba, did not bomb thousands of civilians into ashes, did not murder every male citizen of a small town before retreating from it, etc. Hey, come to think of it, you know who did that last part in Cuba? The Cuban dictatorship. Thousands of political prisoners have been murdered since 1959. I wonder if anyone polled them on which defensive alliance Cuba ought to join before putting a bullet into their head.

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> Not even gonna get into that whole "NATO expansion" clusterfuck. If you think a fascist dictatorship should have veto powers over which defensive alliances it

by cies 5y ago

kspacewalk2 5y ago
While I disagree with the trade blockade, I don't think there's any equivalence here. We don't know what Cuba wants any more than we know what Belarus or North Korea wants. We can approximately equate the country with the people in terms of 'wants' and actions only if the country is actually ran by its people, democratically. Cuba is controlled by a totalitarian regime, and its people cannot decide on which defensive alliances to join because the Cuban government doesn't ask them. >To me Russia invading Ukraine is like US invading Cuba: you could see it coming from miles ahead. The big bad agressor's "security needs". Except the US did not invade Cuba, did not bomb thousands of civilians into ashes, did not murder every male citizen of a small town before retreating from it, etc. Hey, come to think of it, you know who did that last part in Cuba? The Cuban dictatorship. Thousands of political prisoners have been murdered since 1959. I wonder if anyone polled them on which defensive alliance Cuba ought to join before putting a bullet into their head.