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Earlier I saw a tweet where Google Docs flagged the word "landlord" as non-inclusive.

mc32 5y ago
It would actually be nice if Google Docs could keep the gender right in a sentence. Like if you say, Lucy, my landlord and the suggestion were to change it to Lucy, my landlady.
- metalliqaz 5y ago
  I swear to god I did not know 'landlord' is gendered, at least not in the modern context. Is this one of those "actor" vs "actress" things?
  - mc32 5y ago
    I think it is like actor actress. Landlord can be inclusive (genderless/generic term) and used regardless of gender and is accepted use --but if you want to be specific you can use landlady.
  - nullc 5y ago
    In american english it had become genderless, but that isn't acceptable to gender-existentialist that insist on forcefully assigning gendered interpretations to everything possible.
waynecochran 5y ago
Did it suggest an alternative? "land-overseer"
nickthegreek 5y ago
Its replacement suggestions were Property Owner or Proprietor. Those both seem like decent replacements.
- ironSkillet 5y ago
  They are decent replacements, but I also don't think "landlord" is actually a gendered word in modern language, so I'm not sure what there is to be offended about.
  - HigherPlain 5y ago
    It's not about being offended, it's about having control. The power to change words, and what that represents.
  - giaour 5y ago
    "Landlord" is gendered; people still regularly use "landlady" to refer to a woman property owner/lessor. There's room for a neologism here. Maybe "landliege" to keep it sounding feudal?
- InitialLastName 5y ago
  Neither of those terms carries an implication that the person is the lessor of a rented property, as opposed to an owner/occupier.
dfxm12 5y ago
Damn, Google is gonna upset two (probably mutually exclusive) groups of people with that one. Those who refuse to use change to inclusive, gender neutral language and those who hate landlords.
- MrStonedOne 5y ago
advisedwang 5y ago
https://twitter.com/thecitywanderer/status/1516176983549530122 https://twitter.com/thecitywanderer/status/15161769835495301...
- tomatowurst 5y ago
  damn thought it was a joke, it was not!!! I don't know what to say I'm speechless as a non-American looking in. genuinely curious if "master bedroom" or "slave drive" gets the same treatment.
  - vimy 5y ago
    > A growing number of real-estate professionals have stopped using the phrase ‘master bedroom’ amid a broader societal rethink of the language we use https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-real-estate-industry-may-finally-be-abandoning-master-bedrooms-after-years-of-discussion-2020-08-05 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-real-estate-industry-m... :p
    - tomatowurst 5y ago
      I really don't understand this part of America

mc32 5y ago

It would actually be nice if Google Docs could keep the gender right in a sentence. Like if you say, Lucy, my landlord and the suggestion were to change it to Lucy, my landlady.

metalliqaz 5y ago
I swear to god I did not know 'landlord' is gendered, at least not in the modern context. Is this one of those "actor" vs "actress" things?
- mc32 5y ago
  I think it is like actor actress. Landlord can be inclusive (genderless/generic term) and used regardless of gender and is accepted use --but if you want to be specific you can use landlady.
- nullc 5y ago
  In american english it had become genderless, but that isn't acceptable to gender-existentialist that insist on forcefully assigning gendered interpretations to everything possible.

waynecochran 5y ago

Did it suggest an alternative? "land-overseer"

nickthegreek 5y ago

Its replacement suggestions were Property Owner or Proprietor. Those both seem like decent replacements.

ironSkillet 5y ago
They are decent replacements, but I also don't think "landlord" is actually a gendered word in modern language, so I'm not sure what there is to be offended about.
- HigherPlain 5y ago
  It's not about being offended, it's about having control. The power to change words, and what that represents.
- giaour 5y ago
  "Landlord" is gendered; people still regularly use "landlady" to refer to a woman property owner/lessor. There's room for a neologism here. Maybe "landliege" to keep it sounding feudal?
InitialLastName 5y ago
Neither of those terms carries an implication that the person is the lessor of a rented property, as opposed to an owner/occupier.

dfxm12 5y ago

Damn, Google is gonna upset two (probably mutually exclusive) groups of people with that one. Those who refuse to use change to inclusive, gender neutral language and those who hate landlords.

MrStonedOne 5y ago

advisedwang 5y ago

https://twitter.com/thecitywanderer/status/1516176983549530122 https://twitter.com/thecitywanderer/status/15161769835495301...

tomatowurst 5y ago
damn thought it was a joke, it was not!!! I don't know what to say I'm speechless as a non-American looking in. genuinely curious if "master bedroom" or "slave drive" gets the same treatment.
- vimy 5y ago
  > A growing number of real-estate professionals have stopped using the phrase ‘master bedroom’ amid a broader societal rethink of the language we use https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-real-estate-industry-may-finally-be-abandoning-master-bedrooms-after-years-of-discussion-2020-08-05 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-real-estate-industry-m... :p
  - tomatowurst 5y ago
    I really don't understand this part of America