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I will ignore the bizarre exception you are making for "Laws regulating the curricula of state-funded public schools" because I can still point to other example

by slg 5y ago

I will ignore the bizarre exception you are making for "Laws regulating the curricula of state-funded public schools" because I can still point to other examples. Here is a law that passed this month in Florida that dictates what topics employers can discuss in diversity training programs.[1] [1] - https://www.natlawreview.com/article/florida-s-stop-woke-act-limits-topics-employers-can-discuss-di-training https://www.natlawreview.com/article/florida-s-stop-woke-act...

temp8964 5y ago
Why those reporting need to be intentionally biased? The bill is clearly about what the training programs can teach, not “discuss”. These two are clearly different. When a training program teaches white employees they are inherently racist, it’s totally different from a random person raises this idea from discussion.
- slg 5y ago
  This is a continuation of the same problem I highlighted before because it pretends that self-censorship only happens on the right. I have been through over a dozen diversity training courses in my career. Not a single one has ever said "white employees are inherently racists". This law is written against strawmen examples. Their goal isn't to stop those extreme examples. It is supposed to make companies fearful enough of a lawsuit, remember a lawsuit doesn't have to win to be costly and damaging, that they either dumb down this training or stop it entirely. The problem with censorship is not just what is actively censored. There is a much broader chilling effect that ends up censoring more topics even if they aren't explicitly banned.
  - temp8964 5y ago
    If you never saw one then it does not exist. Good point.
    - slg 5y ago
      Speaking of strawmen... You could have at least tried to address the point I was making.
      - temp8964 5y ago
        You don't have a point. You live in an alternative reality which claims things exist in reality do not exist.
Georgelemental 5y ago
It's not a bizarre exception, it's completely normal. If a math teacher tells their students that 2+2=5, it's not an assault on free speech to fire the teacher.
- slg 5y ago
  I like how you challenged me to listed an example thinking none existed, I list an example, and then you completely ignored that I did. You didn't even try to weasel out of it by saying that example doesn't qualify, just fully 100% ignored that I proved you wrong.
  - Georgelemental 5y ago
    I didn't "weasel out" of anything, I didn't address a portion of your comment because I judged that another commenter had already said everything I would have said.

by slg 5y ago

temp8964 5y ago

Why those reporting need to be intentionally biased? The bill is clearly about what the training programs can teach, not “discuss”. These two are clearly different. When a training program teaches white employees they are inherently racist, it’s totally different from a random person raises this idea from discussion.

slg 5y ago
This is a continuation of the same problem I highlighted before because it pretends that self-censorship only happens on the right. I have been through over a dozen diversity training courses in my career. Not a single one has ever said "white employees are inherently racists". This law is written against strawmen examples. Their goal isn't to stop those extreme examples. It is supposed to make companies fearful enough of a lawsuit, remember a lawsuit doesn't have to win to be costly and damaging, that they either dumb down this training or stop it entirely. The problem with censorship is not just what is actively censored. There is a much broader chilling effect that ends up censoring more topics even if they aren't explicitly banned.
- temp8964 5y ago
  If you never saw one then it does not exist. Good point.
  - slg 5y ago
    Speaking of strawmen... You could have at least tried to address the point I was making.
    - temp8964 5y ago
      You don't have a point. You live in an alternative reality which claims things exist in reality do not exist.

Georgelemental 5y ago

It's not a bizarre exception, it's completely normal. If a math teacher tells their students that 2+2=5, it's not an assault on free speech to fire the teacher.

slg 5y ago
I like how you challenged me to listed an example thinking none existed, I list an example, and then you completely ignored that I did. You didn't even try to weasel out of it by saying that example doesn't qualify, just fully 100% ignored that I proved you wrong.
- Georgelemental 5y ago
  I didn't "weasel out" of anything, I didn't address a portion of your comment because I judged that another commenter had already said everything I would have said.