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I dont think anyone is denying that there were fringe nationalist groups in Ukraine, just like nobody can deny that there are fringe nationalist groups in US(Re
by vladgur 5y ago
I dont think anyone is denying that there were fringe nationalist groups in Ukraine, just like nobody can deny that there are fringe nationalist groups in US(Remember "Jews wont replace us" chanting blokes in 2020) or fringe nationalist groups in Russia(See the video of Rogozin, who leads Russia's space agency, participating in Moscow' nationalist meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUItOUKQ-zc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUItOUKQ-zc ).
A fringe group that has 0 political power does not make "Ukrainian are nazis" any more true than when its spewed by Russian propaganda machine
- CapricornNoble 5y ago>>>A fringe group that has 0 political power does not make "Ukrainian are nazis" any more true Read Bellingcat's coverage of the problem from 2019: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/11/11/ukraines-ministry-of-veterans-affairs-embraced-the-far-right-with-consequences-to-the-u-s/ https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/11/11/ukr... Azov members have close access to major Ukrainian politicians, including Arsen Avakov, the (now-former) Interior Minister. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/rise-of-azov/ https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/rise-of-azov/
- vladgur 5y agoI agree that inviting representatives of right-wing groups to a meeting with Zelensky on veterans affairs is a political mistake. That does not negate the fact that these right-wing organizations, including "Right Sector" had negligible popular support and won exactly 0 seats in Verhovna Rada. Again a very poor reason to invade a neighboring country
- krzyk 5y agoAzov is not what you think it is. It is like complaining that a general has access to any Ministry.