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>War support is pretty strong through all social strata. (also backed by independent pollsters like levada) Well, when Levada's polls showed overwhelming suppo
by gdy 5y ago
>War support is pretty strong through all social strata. (also backed by independent pollsters like levada)
Well, when Levada's polls showed overwhelming support for the annexation among Crimeans (and even growing support from Crimean Tatars) everybody was telling that Russian polls are rigged by Russian government and Crimeans were afraid to voice their true opinions. Now you are ready to believe all Russian polls if they help you demonize ordinary Russians.
A poll using so called 'differential privacy' approach gives about 55% support for the war [0] and that's something considering that all tv channels and lots of government-sponsored internet news sites are spewing government propaganda and all independent media are terminated and blocked on the internet. That's about as much as the share of Americans supporting the second Iraq war while having access to the free media. [1]
Personally, I immediately decline to participate in polls despite being approached twice in the last week. Before the war I was happy to tell them that I don't trust Putin, the government, the parliament and everyone else.
Among young or middle-aged educated Russians the support for the war is much lower. Among all my acquaintances only two supported the war when it started.
[0] https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/04/06/do-russians-tell-the-truth-when-they-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine-evidence-from-a-list-experiment/ https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/04/06/do-russians-te...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_in_the_United_States_on_the_invasion_of_Iraq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_in_the_United_S...
- pfortuny 5y ago“The respondents on the platform are not a perfect mirror image of Russian society, of course. They tend to be younger, more urban, and better educated (Table 1).” So mostly people who did not live the USSR…
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- Barrin92 5y ago>Now you are ready to believe all Russian polls if they help you demonize ordinary Russians. I think you read intent into my post that isn't there. I don't demonize Russians now, didn't demonize them in 2014 and I very much did believe polls in 2014 because if you had any idea about Russia or Crimea you knew that the annexation would be celebrated and rally support and an intense amount of national pride. 55% and comparisons to Iraq seem about right, but that war had authentic support for many years, had entire schools of foreign policy backing it, and hawks exist along the entire spectrum, from coastal intellectuals to flyover country. you actually did have the same discussions back then. "It's the deep state and MI-complex running everything, all Americans hate war!". Like, no lol. liberal twenty-something college students did, many others were on board.
- gdy 5y agoOkay, thank you.