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Here's Michael Bay having a panic attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeClZfVwOk4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeClZfVwOk4 Note that aside from some min

Here's Michael Bay having a panic attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeClZfVwOk4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeClZfVwOk4 Note that aside from some minor body language cues, there aren't a lot of outward signs of panic. How it looks and how it feels are very different.

josephg 4y ago
I believe you. The struggle is, when a candidate is failing a job interview, how can you tell the difference between someone who's good but stressed vs someone who's just not very good? Because weak candidates need to submit a lot of applications to get a job, most job applications are from weak candidates. Its easy to feel compassion for people who have panic attacks. Its much harder to make a filter for weak candidates which doesn't also filter out people with performance anxiety. Seems like we don't even know how big a this problem is. Is it 1% of the candidates? 10%? 50%? I have no idea. And it sounds like nobody here has any real idea either.
- Eratosthenes 4y ago
  >how can you tell the difference between someone who's good but stressed vs someone who's just not very good? This is a solved problem already. Do we use whiteboard interviews for standardized tests or certifications? No. >Seems like we don't even know how big a this problem is. Seems like you don't know. >Is it 1% of the candidates? 10%? 50%? I have no idea. And it sounds like nobody here has any real idea either. How much time did you spend trying to find out before giving up?
  - josephg 4y ago
    I'd appreciate if you expressed your opinions explicitly, rather than as snippy backhanders. > Do we use whiteboard interviews for standardized tests or certifications? No. Your position is not clear here. Are you claiming a written exam would be a better assessment for programming ability? That sounds bad? For what its worth, I don't think whiteboards are the best way to assess programming skill either. My preference is for supervised programming assessments - like this article suggests. Whats your preference and why? >> Seems like we don't even know how big a this problem is. > Seems like you don't know. Correct; I don't know. That is why I asked. If the answer is obvious to you, maybe instead of insults you could link to a study?

josephg 4y ago

I believe you. The struggle is, when a candidate is failing a job interview, how can you tell the difference between someone who's good but stressed vs someone who's just not very good? Because weak candidates need to submit a lot of applications to get a job, most job applications are from weak candidates. Its easy to feel compassion for people who have panic attacks. Its much harder to make a filter for weak candidates which doesn't also filter out people with performance anxiety. Seems like we don't even know how big a this problem is. Is it 1% of the candidates? 10%? 50%? I have no idea. And it sounds like nobody here has any real idea either.

Eratosthenes 4y ago
>how can you tell the difference between someone who's good but stressed vs someone who's just not very good? This is a solved problem already. Do we use whiteboard interviews for standardized tests or certifications? No. >Seems like we don't even know how big a this problem is. Seems like you don't know. >Is it 1% of the candidates? 10%? 50%? I have no idea. And it sounds like nobody here has any real idea either. How much time did you spend trying to find out before giving up?
- josephg 4y ago
  I'd appreciate if you expressed your opinions explicitly, rather than as snippy backhanders. > Do we use whiteboard interviews for standardized tests or certifications? No. Your position is not clear here. Are you claiming a written exam would be a better assessment for programming ability? That sounds bad? For what its worth, I don't think whiteboards are the best way to assess programming skill either. My preference is for supervised programming assessments - like this article suggests. Whats your preference and why? >> Seems like we don't even know how big a this problem is. > Seems like you don't know. Correct; I don't know. That is why I asked. If the answer is obvious to you, maybe instead of insults you could link to a study?