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this is textbook xenophobia and you should be ashamed. Implying that the foreign born population in Canada are somehow less canadian or more foreign is not what

this is textbook xenophobia and you should be ashamed. Implying that the foreign born population in Canada are somehow less canadian or more foreign is not what anyone should be saying.

car_analogy 5y ago
Yes yes xenophobia - but is it true? Did Canada's past immigration policy contribute to current home prices? And more importantly - will the current immigration policy contribute to future high prices? If the goal is affordable housing, why is immigration the one policy that must not be adjusted to meet that goal?
- FredPret 5y ago
  Whether those new Canadians arrived by birth or immigration, they are here now. We should build enough houses for them. If Canada cut it’s immigration targets, it would have to somehow produce a lot more babies to pay for everything. More houses needed either way.
  - car_analogy 5y ago
    Population cannot grow without limit, no matter what "everything" Canadians have to pay for. Sooner or later, we will have to learn to live with a stable population. Many industrialized countries have already done so - Japan, China, South Korea, eastern Europe.. By any sane environmental standard, there is already too many of us*, so sooner would be better. *Yes, if we changed our lifestyles to reduce consumption, we could fit more people in - but until we do so, we should stop adding to the population.
- wnolens 5y ago
  Downvotes? It's a major component of the supply side of the equation, and one which is controlled by policies. And it's not like you proposed "close borders completely!" or "send people back". There's a limit as it is. How is changing that limit going forward any more xenophobic than blocking foreign investors?
didcot 5y ago
"this is textbook xenophobia and you should be ashamed." Keep things civil, I dont want HN to evolve into reddit. car_analogy comment was benign, but honestly as a Canadian living abroad I am different than the other people I live around. I would not call myself X country adjective here (e.g. Swiss). That is not saying I'm not trying my best to integrate.

this is textbook xenophobia and you should be ashamed. Implying that the foreign born population in Canada are somehow less canadian or more foreign is not what anyone should be saying.

car_analogy 5y ago

Yes yes xenophobia - but is it true? Did Canada's past immigration policy contribute to current home prices? And more importantly - will the current immigration policy contribute to future high prices? If the goal is affordable housing, why is immigration the one policy that must not be adjusted to meet that goal?

FredPret 5y ago
Whether those new Canadians arrived by birth or immigration, they are here now. We should build enough houses for them. If Canada cut it’s immigration targets, it would have to somehow produce a lot more babies to pay for everything. More houses needed either way.
- car_analogy 5y ago
  Population cannot grow without limit, no matter what "everything" Canadians have to pay for. Sooner or later, we will have to learn to live with a stable population. Many industrialized countries have already done so - Japan, China, South Korea, eastern Europe.. By any sane environmental standard, there is already too many of us*, so sooner would be better. *Yes, if we changed our lifestyles to reduce consumption, we could fit more people in - but until we do so, we should stop adding to the population.
wnolens 5y ago
Downvotes? It's a major component of the supply side of the equation, and one which is controlled by policies. And it's not like you proposed "close borders completely!" or "send people back". There's a limit as it is. How is changing that limit going forward any more xenophobic than blocking foreign investors?

didcot 5y ago

"this is textbook xenophobia and you should be ashamed." Keep things civil, I dont want HN to evolve into reddit. car_analogy comment was benign, but honestly as a Canadian living abroad I am different than the other people I live around. I would not call myself X country adjective here (e.g. Swiss). That is not saying I'm not trying my best to integrate.