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Yep. This is NOT the first study generally disproving a link between sodium and CVD. Sodium is NOT the horrible evil it's portrayed as. What is actually probl

Yep. This is NOT the first study generally disproving a link between sodium and CVD. Sodium is NOT the horrible evil it's portrayed as. What is actually problematic is, if anything, an imbalance with potassium and sometimes calcium and/or magnesium.

pc86 4y ago
> This is NOT the first study generally disproving a link between sodium and CVD. That's a weird way to phrase it because this study has nothing to do with cardiovascular disease generally. It's specifically about non-hospitalized patients already diagnosed with heart failure. This does nothing to disprove the very clear link between sodium intake above a certain level and heart disease in a previously healthy individual.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > the very clear link between sodium intake above a certain level and heart disease in a previously healthy individual Is this actually well established? I’ve seen so many “war on salt” articles that I’d assumed it was still debated.
  - rabuse 4y ago
    No, it is not. It's difficult to correlate CVD to high sodium intake when the majority of people in the U.S. are overweight/obese, and is the largest factor in CVD.
- newbamboo 4y ago
  “link between sodium intake above a certain level and heart disease in a previously healthy individual” I know this is common knowledge but could you provide any recent studies or citations for curious readers? Anything from the past 5 years? I could never understand how they factor in body weight and physical activity, which should change the recommended levels. Someone who sweats a lot because of intense exercise might need sodium above that limit. Or if you drank more water than average, etc…
scns 4y ago
> What is actually problematic is, if anything, an imbalance with potassium Spot on with a caveat: you cannot balance out to much sodium by consuming more potassium.
postingposts 4y ago
Human beings are like plants that must be watered. Our difference is that our “soil” is our blood, and to get it “dry” to absorb more water means two things: Changing the level of salinity to allow more water via osmosis, and altering the composition of neurally-reactive cations and anions. It’s not so much balancing them out as letting them enter and leave the system at intervals, like we do with air and respiration.

pc86 4y ago

> This is NOT the first study generally disproving a link between sodium and CVD. That's a weird way to phrase it because this study has nothing to do with cardiovascular disease generally. It's specifically about non-hospitalized patients already diagnosed with heart failure. This does nothing to disprove the very clear link between sodium intake above a certain level and heart disease in a previously healthy individual.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> the very clear link between sodium intake above a certain level and heart disease in a previously healthy individual Is this actually well established? I’ve seen so many “war on salt” articles that I’d assumed it was still debated.
- rabuse 4y ago
  No, it is not. It's difficult to correlate CVD to high sodium intake when the majority of people in the U.S. are overweight/obese, and is the largest factor in CVD.
newbamboo 4y ago
“link between sodium intake above a certain level and heart disease in a previously healthy individual” I know this is common knowledge but could you provide any recent studies or citations for curious readers? Anything from the past 5 years? I could never understand how they factor in body weight and physical activity, which should change the recommended levels. Someone who sweats a lot because of intense exercise might need sodium above that limit. Or if you drank more water than average, etc…

scns 4y ago

> What is actually problematic is, if anything, an imbalance with potassium Spot on with a caveat: you cannot balance out to much sodium by consuming more potassium.

postingposts 4y ago

Human beings are like plants that must be watered. Our difference is that our “soil” is our blood, and to get it “dry” to absorb more water means two things: Changing the level of salinity to allow more water via osmosis, and altering the composition of neurally-reactive cations and anions. It’s not so much balancing them out as letting them enter and leave the system at intervals, like we do with air and respiration.