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> I didn't say that Intuit caused complex taxes, I said they actively lobby to keep them complicated. they do? I know they lobby against free website. But i do

> I didn't say that Intuit caused complex taxes, I said they actively lobby to keep them complicated. they do? I know they lobby against free website. But i don't see why they nee to lobby for complicated tax code since all the tax exemptions and complexity is widely popular with american public. I cant imagine a politican running on removing home improvement exemptions to simplify tax code.

micromacrofoot 5y ago
They've specifically lobbied against automatic filing on multiple occasions, spanning several administrations, and they've also lobbied against tax code simplification. Are you engaging in this conversation to seek more information, or in an attempt to defend Intuit? most of these answers are a simple google away.
- dominotw 5y ago
  > Are you engaging in this conversation to seek more information, or in an attempt to defend Intuit? most of these answers are a simple google away. yes i am trying to find how they `lobbied against tax code simplification.` . All the links are pointing to how they lobbied against govt run tax filing system. eg: https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-turbotax-20-year-fight-to-stop-americans-from-filing-their-taxes-for-free https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-turbotax-20-year-f...
  - micromacrofoot 5y ago
    Again, this isn't hard. You can't oppose an argument by coming here and saying "it wasn't in the first google result" Same source, different article mentions Intuit's opposition to return-free filing: https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-maker-of-turbotax-fought-free-simple-tax-filing https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-maker-of-turbotax...
    - dominotw 5y ago
      > 1. Intuit's opposition to return-free filing > 2. lobbied against tax code simplification. 1 and 2 are different. yes? You are right i can tons of examples and articles for 1 but i am looking for 2 specifically. tax code simplification isn't the same a tax filing simplification. edit: Yes i am not saying its not simple. 'Tax code' means something specific, its not a generic standin for anything that has to do with taxes. Tax code has nothing do with tax filing itself. I am not sure how to explain this better.
    - micromacrofoot 5y ago
      So you're saying that return-free filing is not more simple? Going to end it the conversation here and log off for the day, nothing personal, it's just a waste of my time to connect the dots in such a painstakingly specific way.

micromacrofoot 5y ago

They've specifically lobbied against automatic filing on multiple occasions, spanning several administrations, and they've also lobbied against tax code simplification. Are you engaging in this conversation to seek more information, or in an attempt to defend Intuit? most of these answers are a simple google away.

dominotw 5y ago
> Are you engaging in this conversation to seek more information, or in an attempt to defend Intuit? most of these answers are a simple google away. yes i am trying to find how they `lobbied against tax code simplification.` . All the links are pointing to how they lobbied against govt run tax filing system. eg: https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-turbotax-20-year-fight-to-stop-americans-from-filing-their-taxes-for-free https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-turbotax-20-year-f...
- micromacrofoot 5y ago
  Again, this isn't hard. You can't oppose an argument by coming here and saying "it wasn't in the first google result" Same source, different article mentions Intuit's opposition to return-free filing: https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-maker-of-turbotax-fought-free-simple-tax-filing https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-maker-of-turbotax...
  - dominotw 5y ago
    > 1. Intuit's opposition to return-free filing > 2. lobbied against tax code simplification. 1 and 2 are different. yes? You are right i can tons of examples and articles for 1 but i am looking for 2 specifically. tax code simplification isn't the same a tax filing simplification. edit: Yes i am not saying its not simple. 'Tax code' means something specific, its not a generic standin for anything that has to do with taxes. Tax code has nothing do with tax filing itself. I am not sure how to explain this better.
  - micromacrofoot 5y ago
    So you're saying that return-free filing is not more simple? Going to end it the conversation here and log off for the day, nothing personal, it's just a waste of my time to connect the dots in such a painstakingly specific way.