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Artists already get paid peanuts from listens on Spotify. It's a shame to see projects like this sucking more revenue away from them. If you really want a quali

Artists already get paid peanuts from listens on Spotify. It's a shame to see projects like this sucking more revenue away from them. If you really want a quality digital recording, they are generally available for purchase and without violating Spotify's ToS.

forgotpwd16 5y ago
This requires premium account to work so for this aspect it isn't any different than downloading for offline usage in Spotify app.
- michaelmior 5y ago
  I'd be surprised if Spotify doesn't track plays even when you've downloaded music for offline listening. Also, using official features of the app doesn't violate their ToS.
- amag 5y ago
  It is different because even in offline-mode Spotify keeps track of the number of times the song has been played in order to pay the artist the correct amount.
metadat 5y ago
Yes, how dare those paying users download the songs. Fuck them! They should pay for every byte every time, forever!!! /s
- michaelmior 5y ago
  If you're paying for a streaming service, then yes. If you want to pay to download the songs, then do that. Most artists have avenues where you can do so. You seem to think that if users are paying for a streaming service that explicitly disallows making copies, those users should still be entitled to make copies.
  - metadat 5y ago
    Why is this discussion full of comments which sound like RIAA sponsored shills? The RIAA will be creaming in their pants when they read comments like yours. People should feel entitled to do whatever they can get away with. Why, you ask? Well read on.. The record labels are extremely greedy, and Spotify et. al. are merely a thin proxy wrapper in front of them. Oh yeah, and Spotify barely pays the artists anything at all. So if you "pay" for Spotify, the degree to which you're providing support to the musicians you love so much is questionable. At least with Deezer, they allocate more of the revenue to actually go back to the artists. Back to the point, Spotify and Deezer aren't looking out for me or you. Downloading is an appealing alternative to hoping songs don't disappear when licenses change for no discernable reason. Life is short, I advocate for individuals to do what they want when it doesn't measurably harm anyone else. Going into the grave knowing I committed few or no music license violations is such a low value goal, how do people not realize this? Nowadays there isn't a shortage of music, at all. Especially not due to folks downloading songs, in fact this makes the artists even more popular. They should be grateful for getting popular enough to warrant any form of piracy. Lots of music creators would love to have this "problem".
    - taylodl 5y ago
      A lot of people think there's a shortage of good music and the pipeline for musicians (people who actually learn to play instruments and master composition) is dwindling.
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      - metadat 5y ago
        Honest question: How does this relate to "illegally" downloading songs vs perpetually streaming them? I have enormous respect for professional Craftsman musicians, but I don't know if they make a real dent in the numbers when compared to the trendy Biebs and Gagas.
        5y ago

forgotpwd16 5y ago

This requires premium account to work so for this aspect it isn't any different than downloading for offline usage in Spotify app.

michaelmior 5y ago
I'd be surprised if Spotify doesn't track plays even when you've downloaded music for offline listening. Also, using official features of the app doesn't violate their ToS.
amag 5y ago
It is different because even in offline-mode Spotify keeps track of the number of times the song has been played in order to pay the artist the correct amount.

metadat 5y ago

Yes, how dare those paying users download the songs. Fuck them! They should pay for every byte every time, forever!!! /s

michaelmior 5y ago
If you're paying for a streaming service, then yes. If you want to pay to download the songs, then do that. Most artists have avenues where you can do so. You seem to think that if users are paying for a streaming service that explicitly disallows making copies, those users should still be entitled to make copies.
- metadat 5y ago
  Why is this discussion full of comments which sound like RIAA sponsored shills? The RIAA will be creaming in their pants when they read comments like yours. People should feel entitled to do whatever they can get away with. Why, you ask? Well read on.. The record labels are extremely greedy, and Spotify et. al. are merely a thin proxy wrapper in front of them. Oh yeah, and Spotify barely pays the artists anything at all. So if you "pay" for Spotify, the degree to which you're providing support to the musicians you love so much is questionable. At least with Deezer, they allocate more of the revenue to actually go back to the artists. Back to the point, Spotify and Deezer aren't looking out for me or you. Downloading is an appealing alternative to hoping songs don't disappear when licenses change for no discernable reason. Life is short, I advocate for individuals to do what they want when it doesn't measurably harm anyone else. Going into the grave knowing I committed few or no music license violations is such a low value goal, how do people not realize this? Nowadays there isn't a shortage of music, at all. Especially not due to folks downloading songs, in fact this makes the artists even more popular. They should be grateful for getting popular enough to warrant any form of piracy. Lots of music creators would love to have this "problem".
  - taylodl 5y ago
    A lot of people think there's a shortage of good music and the pipeline for musicians (people who actually learn to play instruments and master composition) is dwindling.
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    - metadat 5y ago
      Honest question: How does this relate to "illegally" downloading songs vs perpetually streaming them? I have enormous respect for professional Craftsman musicians, but I don't know if they make a real dent in the numbers when compared to the trendy Biebs and Gagas.
      - 5y ago