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Putting aside that trains already pretty much run on eletricity and some city buses are already hybrids... I'm more surprised at your ignoring highly technical

Putting aside that trains already pretty much run on eletricity and some city buses are already hybrids... I'm more surprised at your ignoring highly technically capable firms that have decades of experience and practical know how when it comes to mass transit "people movers". Why did you specifically choose Tesla Motors? It's neither a small player startup nor is it an experienced big fish. Why Tesla?

jelliclesfarm 5y ago
Boring Company. Can go underground. There has to be intra city and inter city network. We still need parking lots and have to deal with traffic jams. + Having multiple 20-50 seater frequent round trips. There is lots of room for improvement ..esp with using AI and data. It will never get funded by state run outfits. What I liked about Tesla Motors is that they used every customer’s trips and every car collected data for Tesla..blurring the line between being an automobile company and a data company…it is such a simple and effective solution. They turned customers into part time employees who paid from their pockets to do Tesla’s job. Moved things fast. Everyone wins. If ever there was a collective crowd sourced hack. Meanwhile cruise et al took a different (imo, not very elegant) approach.
- vagrantJin 5y ago
  > Boring Company. Can go underground I hope you aren't serious. Maybe a quick shill for TSLA? Perhaps I missed the joke? I seem to recall a underground infrastructure that can move thousands of people per hour at great speeds in the city. I think a sandwich company is named after it. I forget what its called. > used every customer’s trips and every car collected data for Tesla..blurring the line between being an automobile company and a data company…it is such a simple and effective solution. Ok. There's definitely a joke in there somewhere. Aside from known problems like route optimization, what would a public transit system need Tesla-like data collection for? What would the AI be used for specifically? Sure, companies like Comma.ai are doing some interesting self-driving machine learning modelling stuff but I am curious as to why you think public transit would need that level of data collection...ofcourse going on the assumption that they don't collect any data at all because reasons. Ofcourse leaving aside that Tesla's innovation is energy storage packaged in a neat looking sports car. 10/10 would make a great powersource is a dystopian movie.
  - jelliclesfarm 5y ago
    Sorry. I don’t think I understood your point other than some obscure mockery directed at me. Can you give me a shorter version, please? No one has succeeded in changing my mind so far. I didn’t ask to be interrogated.
    - anaganisk 5y ago
      SUBWAYS!!!!! Subways and electric rail networks are solved problems decades ago. If only Americans, forced their govts to invest more in rail networks. In India I can travel pretty much northernmost to southernmost tip for $15. In US it costs me more than a plane.
      - jelliclesfarm 5y ago
        We don’t even have bullet trains in America. There is MagLev in Disneyland..there’s that.. [..] The 2022 business plan estimates that the full, 500-mile high-speed system between Los Angeles and San Francisco will cost as much as $105 billion, up from $100 billion two years ago. In 2008, when voters approved a bond to help build the railroad, the authority estimated that the system would cost $33 billion.[..] Meanwhile.. in Bay Area: https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/01/25/behind-schedule-and-breaking-down-is-barts-fleet-of-the-future-in-trouble/amp/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/01/25/behind-schedule-and-b...

jelliclesfarm 5y ago

Boring Company. Can go underground. There has to be intra city and inter city network. We still need parking lots and have to deal with traffic jams. + Having multiple 20-50 seater frequent round trips. There is lots of room for improvement ..esp with using AI and data. It will never get funded by state run outfits. What I liked about Tesla Motors is that they used every customer’s trips and every car collected data for Tesla..blurring the line between being an automobile company and a data company…it is such a simple and effective solution. They turned customers into part time employees who paid from their pockets to do Tesla’s job. Moved things fast. Everyone wins. If ever there was a collective crowd sourced hack. Meanwhile cruise et al took a different (imo, not very elegant) approach.

vagrantJin 5y ago
> Boring Company. Can go underground I hope you aren't serious. Maybe a quick shill for TSLA? Perhaps I missed the joke? I seem to recall a underground infrastructure that can move thousands of people per hour at great speeds in the city. I think a sandwich company is named after it. I forget what its called. > used every customer’s trips and every car collected data for Tesla..blurring the line between being an automobile company and a data company…it is such a simple and effective solution. Ok. There's definitely a joke in there somewhere. Aside from known problems like route optimization, what would a public transit system need Tesla-like data collection for? What would the AI be used for specifically? Sure, companies like Comma.ai are doing some interesting self-driving machine learning modelling stuff but I am curious as to why you think public transit would need that level of data collection...ofcourse going on the assumption that they don't collect any data at all because reasons. Ofcourse leaving aside that Tesla's innovation is energy storage packaged in a neat looking sports car. 10/10 would make a great powersource is a dystopian movie.
- jelliclesfarm 5y ago
  Sorry. I don’t think I understood your point other than some obscure mockery directed at me. Can you give me a shorter version, please? No one has succeeded in changing my mind so far. I didn’t ask to be interrogated.
  - anaganisk 5y ago
    SUBWAYS!!!!! Subways and electric rail networks are solved problems decades ago. If only Americans, forced their govts to invest more in rail networks. In India I can travel pretty much northernmost to southernmost tip for $15. In US it costs me more than a plane.
    - jelliclesfarm 5y ago
      We don’t even have bullet trains in America. There is MagLev in Disneyland..there’s that.. [..] The 2022 business plan estimates that the full, 500-mile high-speed system between Los Angeles and San Francisco will cost as much as $105 billion, up from $100 billion two years ago. In 2008, when voters approved a bond to help build the railroad, the authority estimated that the system would cost $33 billion.[..] Meanwhile.. in Bay Area: https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/01/25/behind-schedule-and-breaking-down-is-barts-fleet-of-the-future-in-trouble/amp/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/01/25/behind-schedule-and-b...