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This is awesome! I would buy them just for the novelty but I’m sure we all could eat a bit less salt. The future would be adapting the tech to fit inside the st

This is awesome! I would buy them just for the novelty but I’m sure we all could eat a bit less salt. The future would be adapting the tech to fit inside the stick itself so it’s not even noticeable. Then you could use an electric toothbrush-like charger to top up the battery in between meals. Or even simpler, a wireless charging table placemat? The batteries inside AirPods are about the diameter of chopsticks so we have the battery tech available already. If these really do become a reality, I will probably import some.

kwhitefoot 5y ago
> I’m sure we all could eat a bit less salt We could but there is some doubt about whether it is necessary, and if necessary, for whom.
- Cthulhu_ 5y ago
  Cite your sources, because there's plenty of sources that indicate health risks with high salt intake, especially later in life.
  - snovv_crash 5y ago
    It's typically only an issue if coupled with high fructose. I'd argue the abnormally high levels of fructose are a much bigger health crisis, and salt is relatively minor in comparison.
    - ttyprintk 5y ago
      Not a comment on the interplay, but Japan is well within WHO guidelines for sugars. In school, I heard that Japan reduced gastric cancer cases by 50% when salt intake reduced by 10%. Probably can’t repeat that same public health success again, but with nearly 5m individuals, the effect is strong. I’m not aware of as big a meta analysis for fructose. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34957192/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34957192/
  - JohnPrine 5y ago
    Japan has the developed world's highest life expectancies and yet the Japanese eat double the amount of recommended salt per day. To me that seems sort of inconsistent with salt being a great health risk
    - holbrad 5y ago
      Showing examples that refute people hypotheses is so valuable. Reminds me of the Israeli paradox, Israel has very low saturated fat intake but high heart disease rates. This information on it's own completely disproves any claim that high saturated fat could be the sole cause of heart disease. There must be either an underlying or parallel mechanism that explains Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_paradox *It's all most like biology is complicated and is hard to understand.
      - robonerd 5y ago
        Any "sole cause" claim about health/diet stuff seems highly suspect at best, I can scarcely imagine anything such a claim could be true for. You can't even say that cigarettes are the sole cause of lung cancer; the link between the two is incontrovertible but there are still many other ways to get lung cancer (asbestos, radon, bad luck, etc..)
      - pvaldes 5y ago
        Maybe a result of an higher than usual endogamy in the population. In biology is called effect of the founder, and explain why Jews of german origin have a higher incidence of several recessive genetic diseases than other groups. Many of the survivors moved probably in mass to Israel after the war.
  - Flankk 5y ago
    Check out The Salt Fix: Why the Experts Got It All Wrong--and How Eating More Might Save Your Life. I haven't read it yet but it's on my list.
  - VLM 5y ago
    Plenty of pre-1970 sources, none post 1970, generally the opposite. The most famous historical study was rigged from the start.
  - holbrad 5y ago
    Like the great majority of health advice, especially from governments, limiting salt is based on what is essentially either a misunderstanding at best or pure pseudo-science at worst. First two studies I found when you google for Salt intake and all cause mortality. All cause mortality is in my opinion the only real metric that matters for this discussion. You can find studies on it increasing blood pressure temporarily but if it doesn't translate to death who cares (See Japan and Korea) https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/492034#:~:text=No%20association%20was%20observed%20between,intake%20of%209%20g%2Fday https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/492034#:~:text=No%20.... (In dialysis patients) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33351135/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33351135/ *Not really expecting this to convince anyone, so low effort, but maybe people can acknowledge biology is complex and we don't have any idea about what any food really does. Hence so many studies showing different results because the signal is so weak.

kwhitefoot 5y ago

> I’m sure we all could eat a bit less salt We could but there is some doubt about whether it is necessary, and if necessary, for whom.

Cthulhu_ 5y ago
Cite your sources, because there's plenty of sources that indicate health risks with high salt intake, especially later in life.
- snovv_crash 5y ago
  It's typically only an issue if coupled with high fructose. I'd argue the abnormally high levels of fructose are a much bigger health crisis, and salt is relatively minor in comparison.
  - ttyprintk 5y ago
    Not a comment on the interplay, but Japan is well within WHO guidelines for sugars. In school, I heard that Japan reduced gastric cancer cases by 50% when salt intake reduced by 10%. Probably can’t repeat that same public health success again, but with nearly 5m individuals, the effect is strong. I’m not aware of as big a meta analysis for fructose. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34957192/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34957192/
- JohnPrine 5y ago
  Japan has the developed world's highest life expectancies and yet the Japanese eat double the amount of recommended salt per day. To me that seems sort of inconsistent with salt being a great health risk
  - holbrad 5y ago
    Showing examples that refute people hypotheses is so valuable. Reminds me of the Israeli paradox, Israel has very low saturated fat intake but high heart disease rates. This information on it's own completely disproves any claim that high saturated fat could be the sole cause of heart disease. There must be either an underlying or parallel mechanism that explains Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_paradox *It's all most like biology is complicated and is hard to understand.
    - robonerd 5y ago
      Any "sole cause" claim about health/diet stuff seems highly suspect at best, I can scarcely imagine anything such a claim could be true for. You can't even say that cigarettes are the sole cause of lung cancer; the link between the two is incontrovertible but there are still many other ways to get lung cancer (asbestos, radon, bad luck, etc..)
    - pvaldes 5y ago
      Maybe a result of an higher than usual endogamy in the population. In biology is called effect of the founder, and explain why Jews of german origin have a higher incidence of several recessive genetic diseases than other groups. Many of the survivors moved probably in mass to Israel after the war.
- Flankk 5y ago
  Check out The Salt Fix: Why the Experts Got It All Wrong--and How Eating More Might Save Your Life. I haven't read it yet but it's on my list.
- VLM 5y ago
  Plenty of pre-1970 sources, none post 1970, generally the opposite. The most famous historical study was rigged from the start.
- holbrad 5y ago
  Like the great majority of health advice, especially from governments, limiting salt is based on what is essentially either a misunderstanding at best or pure pseudo-science at worst. First two studies I found when you google for Salt intake and all cause mortality. All cause mortality is in my opinion the only real metric that matters for this discussion. You can find studies on it increasing blood pressure temporarily but if it doesn't translate to death who cares (See Japan and Korea) https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/492034#:~:text=No%20association%20was%20observed%20between,intake%20of%209%20g%2Fday https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/492034#:~:text=No%20.... (In dialysis patients) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33351135/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33351135/ *Not really expecting this to convince anyone, so low effort, but maybe people can acknowledge biology is complex and we don't have any idea about what any food really does. Hence so many studies showing different results because the signal is so weak.