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That is true, maybe I should delete the HN listing. I actually would like to know how to modify librespot to do so, since I am not a developer or know any Rust
by thebiblelover7 5y ago
That is true, maybe I should delete the HN listing.
I actually would like to know how to modify librespot to do so, since I am not a developer or know any Rust at all. Thus this project seems useful to me.
- bartread 5y ago
- Kaze404 5y agoNo one was stoned in the bible for downloading MP3s.
- usrn 5y agoAnd if they were Jesus certainly would have stepped in to stop it.
- paulcole 5y agoWhat kind of theft (piracy for the pedants) did the Bible give the green light to?
- omniglottal 5y agoPedant here. Copyright violation is not theft. Piracy describes another act entirely, too. The bible gives a green light to share words and song publicly, and to duplicate freely for the masses what is in arbitrarily short supply. Even our modern, applicable laws do not mention theft, so you ought try to avoid strawmanning in the future and look up which millenium the DMCA was written for.
- paulcole 5y agoThis is the exact kind of thing I was anticipating. Regardless of terminology, you’re breaking rules set by someone else and doing something because you feel entitled to do it. Even if the original file doesn’t change you’re taking possession of something you don’t have the right to possess. Go nuts. It doesn’t fundamentally matter at all. But don’t try to loophole your way out of a situation that is very clear.
- Kaze404 5y agoIf you consider piracy theft you'd have to consider Jesus multiplying the fish theft. As far as I know he wasn't stoned for it.
- paulcole 5y agoFish didn’t have a TOS that I’m aware of. Spotify does.
- Kaze404 5y agoThat's interesting, because nowhere in Spotify's TOS are the words "theft" or "piracy" mentioned. And even if it was, I don't think basing morals or definitions of words on a single company's terms of service is a good idea. Sure, the TOS probably specifies somewhere that you're not allowed to rip music from their software, but whether doing so is theft has nothing to do with Spotify.
- paulcole 5y agoWe can semantic and pedant this all you want. But fundamentally you and I both know that Spotify has made rules that say you can’t write a script to download all the songs as MP3s or OGGs or whatever. If you want to break those rules, go nuts. But don’t hide behind terminology. You’re taking something somebody else doesn’t want you to have because you feel like you’re entitled to it. Just fucking own it.
- Kaze404 5y agoYou'd be correct if you didn't word it as "taking". Nothing is being taken from anyone, and this might seem like semantics to you but it's an important point when piracy is being discussed. When piracy happens, the net result is that there's more of it in the world, which is contradictory to theft. If you think that's immoral or should be illegal, it's a separate discussion. The point here is that for that discussion to be had the distinction needs to be made.
- mynegation 5y agoIt is a license violation and - to the best of my knowledge - bible has no opinion on this.
- pineconewarrior 5y agoThe Ferengi Rules of Aquisition have something for this one. #218: "Sometimes what you get free costs entirely too much".
- hoofedear 5y agoHN moment
- FerociousTimes 5y agoA glorious one at that
- bartread 5y agoHaha - yeah, I'm (obviously) getting a pasting for it because this is after all HN, but I spotted it and it was a slight WTH moment, and I thought worthy of comment (somewhat justified given it's sparked a bit of discussion). I don't have an axe to grind with OP, and I don't tend to be Spotify's biggest fan (even though I'm also a premium subscriber because of the library they offer), but it simply struck me as quite an odd disconnect.
- thebiblelover7 5y agoGood point, I personally think that since I am paying for Spotify, I have the right to get the mp3/ogg files.
- paulcole 5y agoYou’re free to believe whatever you like but in this case you are 100% wrong.
- thebiblelover7 5y agomay I ask why?
- paulcole 5y agoYou’re not buying MP3/OGG files. You’re buying a license to stream songs from Spotify on their terms.
- omniglottal 5y ago"Streaming" is a transfer of data to the user's computer. The user is simply choosing to manually manage the data already being transferred. This is legal.
- paulcole 5y agoIt may be something you can physically do, but it’s not something that’s allowed by Spotify’s terms of service.
- thebiblelover7 5y agothat makes sense, I am renting this. not buying. Lesson learned.
- FerociousTimes 5y agoCame here for the tech/startup news, stayed for the biblical studies debates
- unicornporn 5y ago> maybe I should delete the HN listing. Yes please. :)
- thebiblelover7 5y agoNow I found that I can't delete it anymore :(. I think I need to ask an admin to do that. @dang if you're reading this, please delete this listing, Thanks.
- collegeburner 5y agoUsers flagging it can also remove it from the front page.