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Sometimes music disappears from Spotify for various reasons. Also, I listen with bluetooth headphones, and bluetooth has its own lossy compression on top of th

Sometimes music disappears from Spotify for various reasons. Also, I listen with bluetooth headphones, and bluetooth has its own lossy compression on top of the original anyway.

Fnoord 5y ago
Same for YouTube but with Spotify you at least know what has been deleted. With YouTube such metadata is axed, too. Pathetic. A good reason for Oggify and YouTube-dl (or a fork).
rollcat 5y ago
> Also, I listen with bluetooth headphones, and bluetooth has its own lossy compression on top of the original anyway. The effects of lossy compression do stack, so you're making a bad problem worse.
- marginalia_nu 5y ago
  If you (like me) can't tell the difference, is it really a problem in the first place?
  - rollcat 5y ago
    I absolutely don't mind lossy compression, until I can actually hear it, at which point I can't bear to continue listening.
- TedDoesntTalk 5y ago
  He probably shouldn't listen to music then at all? At least not with this setup.
  - dale_glass 5y ago
    Oh, get off your high horse. I played a lot of cheap tapes back in the day. That's far worse quality than any MP3, especially if you're young and buy cheap, normal C120 tapes, and play them on a cheap device over and over. When MP3 players were a new thing, I had one with all of 64MB flash on which I played 64 kbps music with dirt cheap earbuds. That wasn't perfect, but I still found it useful. Today Spotify offers 320kbps, which is far superior to a lot of stuff I listened to, and my hearing certainly didn't get any better over the decades. I don't think I notice much difference above 128 kbps these days anyway. Yeah, certainly I'll go for quality if I can have it, but less than perfect is better than nothing and I'm very far from being a crazy audiophile. Modern tech is far beyond the point where I stop caring about further improvements.
    - TedDoesntTalk 5y ago
      > , get off your high horse. I forgot to add the sarcasm indicator. Sorry.
    - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
      I think you are actually making the same point as the parent, given the question mark at the end of the first sentence (which I heard in a rhetorical slightly sarcastic tone)
bouncing 5y ago
The disappearing tracks is really the main problem with Spotify. I think at some point licensing to streaming services needs to be compulsory, like licensing to radio is, so that there aren't "exclusives."

Sometimes music disappears from Spotify for various reasons. Also, I listen with bluetooth headphones, and bluetooth has its own lossy compression on top of the original anyway.

Fnoord 5y ago

Same for YouTube but with Spotify you at least know what has been deleted. With YouTube such metadata is axed, too. Pathetic. A good reason for Oggify and YouTube-dl (or a fork).

rollcat 5y ago

> Also, I listen with bluetooth headphones, and bluetooth has its own lossy compression on top of the original anyway. The effects of lossy compression do stack, so you're making a bad problem worse.

marginalia_nu 5y ago
If you (like me) can't tell the difference, is it really a problem in the first place?
- rollcat 5y ago
  I absolutely don't mind lossy compression, until I can actually hear it, at which point I can't bear to continue listening.
TedDoesntTalk 5y ago
He probably shouldn't listen to music then at all? At least not with this setup.
- dale_glass 5y ago
  Oh, get off your high horse. I played a lot of cheap tapes back in the day. That's far worse quality than any MP3, especially if you're young and buy cheap, normal C120 tapes, and play them on a cheap device over and over. When MP3 players were a new thing, I had one with all of 64MB flash on which I played 64 kbps music with dirt cheap earbuds. That wasn't perfect, but I still found it useful. Today Spotify offers 320kbps, which is far superior to a lot of stuff I listened to, and my hearing certainly didn't get any better over the decades. I don't think I notice much difference above 128 kbps these days anyway. Yeah, certainly I'll go for quality if I can have it, but less than perfect is better than nothing and I'm very far from being a crazy audiophile. Modern tech is far beyond the point where I stop caring about further improvements.
  - TedDoesntTalk 5y ago
    > , get off your high horse. I forgot to add the sarcasm indicator. Sorry.
  - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
    I think you are actually making the same point as the parent, given the question mark at the end of the first sentence (which I heard in a rhetorical slightly sarcastic tone)

bouncing 5y ago

The disappearing tracks is really the main problem with Spotify. I think at some point licensing to streaming services needs to be compulsory, like licensing to radio is, so that there aren't "exclusives."