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>you've been in three of the most religious states in the U.S., and you're interacting w blue collar workers. you're saying that like they went to Arrakis and

>you've been in three of the most religious states in the U.S., and you're interacting w blue collar workers. you're saying that like they went to Arrakis and interacted with the Fremen lol. Blue collar red state workers are what a lot of the US looks like. Two thirds of Americans do not have a university degree.

thatswrong0 5y ago
All I'm gleaning here is that trying to generalize the experiences and preferences of 400+ million people between the U.S. and Canada isn't a particularly useful exercise. Beyond what country / state / county you're in, I have to imagine that age, race, socioeconomic status, general social preferences, and probably a whole other slew of factors play a significant role in how often people experience religion being thrust upon them in. Not to say that this is necessarily a useless conversation, but it feels odd to me considering many dang people there are.
olsonjeffery 5y ago
Your inclusion of “without a university degree” is doing a LOT of work in that sentence to make it seem like rural (and let’s admit it: white) evangelicals are anything close to a majoritarian bloc in the United States.
- ethanbond 5y ago
  You don't need to be an evangelical, and certainly not a white evangelical, for religion to pop up in your conversations. Big cities are quite secular, but that's pretty much it... This is also one of those figures where the area-versus-population thing in the US matters a lot. In the vast majority of the land in the US, I'd agree that religion pops up in a huge share of conversations, but this does not imply that it appears in the vast majority of conversations in the US.
  - olsonjeffery 5y ago
    Goalpost, move thyself! Nobody was talking about land vs people until you brought it up. I personally am not pursuaded.
    - ethanbond 5y ago
      > Yep! Now, I've primarily been travelling to Texas, Kentucky and Ohio. This is land^ “The US” is also land. It’s not moving goalposts to acknowledge that you two may be talking past each other based on this ambiguity :)

thatswrong0 5y ago

All I'm gleaning here is that trying to generalize the experiences and preferences of 400+ million people between the U.S. and Canada isn't a particularly useful exercise. Beyond what country / state / county you're in, I have to imagine that age, race, socioeconomic status, general social preferences, and probably a whole other slew of factors play a significant role in how often people experience religion being thrust upon them in. Not to say that this is necessarily a useless conversation, but it feels odd to me considering many dang people there are.

olsonjeffery 5y ago

Your inclusion of “without a university degree” is doing a LOT of work in that sentence to make it seem like rural (and let’s admit it: white) evangelicals are anything close to a majoritarian bloc in the United States.

ethanbond 5y ago
You don't need to be an evangelical, and certainly not a white evangelical, for religion to pop up in your conversations. Big cities are quite secular, but that's pretty much it... This is also one of those figures where the area-versus-population thing in the US matters a lot. In the vast majority of the land in the US, I'd agree that religion pops up in a huge share of conversations, but this does not imply that it appears in the vast majority of conversations in the US.
- olsonjeffery 5y ago
  Goalpost, move thyself! Nobody was talking about land vs people until you brought it up. I personally am not pursuaded.
  - ethanbond 5y ago
    > Yep! Now, I've primarily been travelling to Texas, Kentucky and Ohio. This is land^ “The US” is also land. It’s not moving goalposts to acknowledge that you two may be talking past each other based on this ambiguity :)