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Yep, it’s sort of hilarious to see us rich Westerners criticizing work conditions in Dubai while our countries simply make it impossible for these same people t

by rosndo 4y ago

Yep, it’s sort of hilarious to see us rich Westerners criticizing work conditions in Dubai while our countries simply make it impossible for these same people to get visas to work in the West. UAE is doing more to improve the lives of these people than the West ever has, even if it doesn’t look all that pretty. It’s very unfortunate that photos of denied visa applications will never evoke the same response.

lotsofpulp 4y ago
Mind boggling that someone could equate slavery via confiscation of passports to denying people immigration visas.
- rosndo 4y ago
  If someone confiscates your passport in Dubai you can have it back within 24 hours by just calling MOHRE at 80060. It is illegal to do this, enforcement is pretty aggressive. As to denial of visas? At least the UAE offers these people a chance at a better life, Western countries give them nothing. A slight QOL improvement is much better than none.
  - munk-a 4y ago
    If it's illegal to confiscate passports in Dubai why is it so widespread and commonplace? Is it like smoking MJ in most states - it's "illegal" but unless cops want a reason to arrest you they'll just ignore you and keep on driving?
    - rosndo 4y ago
      It’s not nearly as widespread in 2022 as you might like to think. To get a low-skilled work visa in Dubai you have to sit through an hour long lecture explaining these rights, including what to do if your employer takes your passport. You are advised to not give your passport to your employer except to have your visa stamped, and then immediately demand it back. This country is modernizing very rapidly, things that were true 5 years ago are often not true anymore.
      - munk-a 4y ago
        My understanding of the situation on the ground might be a bit out of date then, a lot of my information about Dubai comes from pre-pandemic.
rdtwo 4y ago
They trick the workers and then enslave then. Often then employer withholds and does not pay wages. It’s not an opportunity to have a better life if they don’t actually get paid
- rosndo 4y ago
  You say this like it’s the norm and that businesses don’t get penalized if they do this. That’s simply not true.

by rosndo 4y ago

lotsofpulp 4y ago

Mind boggling that someone could equate slavery via confiscation of passports to denying people immigration visas.

rosndo 4y ago
If someone confiscates your passport in Dubai you can have it back within 24 hours by just calling MOHRE at 80060. It is illegal to do this, enforcement is pretty aggressive. As to denial of visas? At least the UAE offers these people a chance at a better life, Western countries give them nothing. A slight QOL improvement is much better than none.
- munk-a 4y ago
  If it's illegal to confiscate passports in Dubai why is it so widespread and commonplace? Is it like smoking MJ in most states - it's "illegal" but unless cops want a reason to arrest you they'll just ignore you and keep on driving?
  - rosndo 4y ago
    It’s not nearly as widespread in 2022 as you might like to think. To get a low-skilled work visa in Dubai you have to sit through an hour long lecture explaining these rights, including what to do if your employer takes your passport. You are advised to not give your passport to your employer except to have your visa stamped, and then immediately demand it back. This country is modernizing very rapidly, things that were true 5 years ago are often not true anymore.
    - munk-a 4y ago
      My understanding of the situation on the ground might be a bit out of date then, a lot of my information about Dubai comes from pre-pandemic.

rdtwo 4y ago

They trick the workers and then enslave then. Often then employer withholds and does not pay wages. It’s not an opportunity to have a better life if they don’t actually get paid

rosndo 4y ago
You say this like it’s the norm and that businesses don’t get penalized if they do this. That’s simply not true.