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google "UAE Sonapur" for some documented examples of the near-slavery condition that some of the imported workers from Pakistan, India, Bangladesh live in. htt

google "UAE Sonapur" for some documented examples of the near-slavery condition that some of the imported workers from Pakistan, India, Bangladesh live in. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=uae+sonapur https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=uae+son... https://gulfnews.com/uae/sonapur-welcome-to-the-dark-side-1.463591 https://gulfnews.com/uae/sonapur-welcome-to-the-dark-side-1....

dylan604 5y ago
I wonder how many of the people that can afford these trips care about any of that?
- mytailorisrich 5y ago
  From Europe, Dubai is a very common and rather cheap destination these days. Return flights from London are under £300.
rosndo 5y ago
“near-slavery” is not slavery, neither is it worse than the places many of these workers come from.
- cycomanic 5y ago
  You mean being treated like a slave, beaten sometimes raped, have their password taken away etc. is not so bad because, hey they still get paid, so not real slavery? (and no that is not the same same conditions as in the Philippines, Pakistan or Bangladesh)
  - rosndo 5y ago
    > beaten sometimes raped You go to prison for this in Dubai. > have their password taken away I suppose you mean “passport”. This is also illegal, government has been cracking down on this for years. The MOHRE hotline for these issues is advertised everywhere, it only takes a quick call and the police will come recover your passport. But yeah, I guess it’s pointless to try and have a conversation with someone engaging as dishonestly as you. I obviously don’t mean that violence or rape are okay, and it’s really shitty of you to suggest that. What next? Will you accuse me of molesting children too?
Aspos 5y ago
What do you think the alternatives should be? Should Indian and Pakistani companies pay more to Indian and Pakistani workers they bring to Dubai? Should they leave them in India and let them work in even worse conditions? Who do you think should dictate how much more Indian companies should pay Indian laborers which btw already are getting way more than they can get at home? Many people crying about "slavery in Dubai" don't fully understand what slavery is and how Dubai works. What I am suggesting here, is that, perhaps, this notion is just a second-hand opinion you should consider changing your mind about. If you are open to it, that is.
- rosndo 5y ago
  Yep, it’s sort of hilarious to see us rich Westerners criticizing work conditions in Dubai while our countries simply make it impossible for these same people to get visas to work in the West. UAE is doing more to improve the lives of these people than the West ever has, even if it doesn’t look all that pretty. It’s very unfortunate that photos of denied visa applications will never evoke the same response.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    Mind boggling that someone could equate slavery via confiscation of passports to denying people immigration visas.
    - rosndo 5y ago
      If someone confiscates your passport in Dubai you can have it back within 24 hours by just calling MOHRE at 80060. It is illegal to do this, enforcement is pretty aggressive. As to denial of visas? At least the UAE offers these people a chance at a better life, Western countries give them nothing. A slight QOL improvement is much better than none.
      - munk-a 5y ago
        If it's illegal to confiscate passports in Dubai why is it so widespread and commonplace? Is it like smoking MJ in most states - it's "illegal" but unless cops want a reason to arrest you they'll just ignore you and keep on driving?
aliswe 5y ago
Fyi Sonapoor is a vastly different place nowadays.

dylan604 5y ago

I wonder how many of the people that can afford these trips care about any of that?

mytailorisrich 5y ago
From Europe, Dubai is a very common and rather cheap destination these days. Return flights from London are under £300.

rosndo 5y ago

“near-slavery” is not slavery, neither is it worse than the places many of these workers come from.

cycomanic 5y ago
You mean being treated like a slave, beaten sometimes raped, have their password taken away etc. is not so bad because, hey they still get paid, so not real slavery? (and no that is not the same same conditions as in the Philippines, Pakistan or Bangladesh)
- rosndo 5y ago
  > beaten sometimes raped You go to prison for this in Dubai. > have their password taken away I suppose you mean “passport”. This is also illegal, government has been cracking down on this for years. The MOHRE hotline for these issues is advertised everywhere, it only takes a quick call and the police will come recover your passport. But yeah, I guess it’s pointless to try and have a conversation with someone engaging as dishonestly as you. I obviously don’t mean that violence or rape are okay, and it’s really shitty of you to suggest that. What next? Will you accuse me of molesting children too?

Aspos 5y ago

What do you think the alternatives should be? Should Indian and Pakistani companies pay more to Indian and Pakistani workers they bring to Dubai? Should they leave them in India and let them work in even worse conditions? Who do you think should dictate how much more Indian companies should pay Indian laborers which btw already are getting way more than they can get at home? Many people crying about "slavery in Dubai" don't fully understand what slavery is and how Dubai works. What I am suggesting here, is that, perhaps, this notion is just a second-hand opinion you should consider changing your mind about. If you are open to it, that is.

rosndo 5y ago
Yep, it’s sort of hilarious to see us rich Westerners criticizing work conditions in Dubai while our countries simply make it impossible for these same people to get visas to work in the West. UAE is doing more to improve the lives of these people than the West ever has, even if it doesn’t look all that pretty. It’s very unfortunate that photos of denied visa applications will never evoke the same response.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  Mind boggling that someone could equate slavery via confiscation of passports to denying people immigration visas.
  - rosndo 5y ago
    If someone confiscates your passport in Dubai you can have it back within 24 hours by just calling MOHRE at 80060. It is illegal to do this, enforcement is pretty aggressive. As to denial of visas? At least the UAE offers these people a chance at a better life, Western countries give them nothing. A slight QOL improvement is much better than none.
    - munk-a 5y ago
      If it's illegal to confiscate passports in Dubai why is it so widespread and commonplace? Is it like smoking MJ in most states - it's "illegal" but unless cops want a reason to arrest you they'll just ignore you and keep on driving?

aliswe 5y ago

Fyi Sonapoor is a vastly different place nowadays.