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Jewellery is a great analogy imo. Apple is a jewellery company imo. They sell expensive, shiny, conspicuous consumption items without practical use. I was shoc

Jewellery is a great analogy imo. Apple is a jewellery company imo. They sell expensive, shiny, conspicuous consumption items without practical use. I was shocked when I found out that macs are popular among people who actually work with computers and even make software. It will never cease to shock me. The only explanation I can think of is that this is a USA social class thing. In the USA the upper classes have Apple stuff and the lower classes have something else. Most people in software come from an upper or upper-middle background so they grow up in an Apple house. Those who don't get Apple anyway to blend in.

pschastain 5y ago
My last MBP only lasted 10 years of almost daily use so yeah, no practical use at all...
jaffe21 5y ago
>> I was shocked when I found out that macs are popular among people who actually work with computers and even make software. It will never cease to shock me. Yeah, wtf. It's not like people that build software for a living know anything about computers right?!
- selfmodruntime 5y ago
  Yea, a unix based system with a good Desktop manager in a powerhouse of a laptop. Horrible, right?
Delk 5y ago
The combination of Unix, a polished user interface and a system that Just Works(TM) appeals to a lot of tech people. That combination at least used to be a kind of a holy grail.
- kaba0 5y ago
  I would like to see the polished user interface that doesn’t lag on desktop switch, or the just works system, because neither of it is true of a last-intel MBP I use.
Terretta 5y ago
> The only explanation I can think of... Craftspeople appreciate good tools. Good tools don't make you better at craft, but bad tools can definitely make you worse. There's also the thing where at the start of a model cycle from Apple, you generally cannot purchase an equipment with all those performance capabilities combined at any price from anyone else. This is true of phones and laptops alike. In other words, at major new model cycles, the full combination of practical function and durable form is often not available anywhere else at any price. When your livelihood depends on your machine, you do well to invest in good tools. And "invest" is the right word, because these hold value. By the end of a model cycle, other vendors may catch up or pass the price perf curve, yet the Apple models are built in a way that holds value for double or quadruple the lifespan of a Windows laptop purchased around the same launch window. This means when you buy fresh and resell two years in, you can spend less for the top of the line functionality than when you stay in the shovel-wear class of machine. (You can even sometimes buy direct refurb and sell a year later for as much as you paid.) > It will never cease to shock me. How to say you're not open minded without saying you're not open minded? :-)
triceratops 5y ago
MBPs are amazing machines for people who work in technology. The advantages: 1. Unix-based OS 2. Outstanding battery life 3. Sturdy and long-lasting; a well-maintained Macbook will outlive any Windows laptop of equal price 4. No pre-loaded crapware 5. Best trackpad in existence 6. Secure, with patches and updates for years This more than outweighs all the other minuses, such as the overly-obsessive focus on thinness, or the outrageous cost of dongles, adapters, memory/storage upgrades, and battery replacements.
- postingposts 5y ago
  Lmao I have had 2 MBPs die on me and the cost to fix them is like $800 and I can’t do it myself. Fuck them.
  - triceratops 5y ago
    You're a statistical outlier. Out of the millions of units they sell, someone is bound to end up with 2 lemons in a row. Sucks for you but it's not the case for millions of satisfied customers.
    - postingposts 5y ago
      Those are the ones I purchased. I have owned 5 and all 5 failed. I think Apple sucks as a result.
  - Tabular-Iceberg 5y ago
    Fuck them indeed, but I can’t wait for a competitor to come out with something that checks all six boxes without the drawbacks of Apple, I need a computer that can do those things now.
    - postingposts 5y ago
      I’m giving up on laptops and sticking to desktops. The desktop I built myself has never given me any problems and it can be repaired, upgraded, and serviced on my own. I really think laptops are just trash and people are delusional about their usefulness. That’s my opinion, damn it!!!
selfmodruntime 5y ago
> They sell expensive, shiny, conspicuous consumption items without practical use Sorry, but I don‘t believe anyone who says this while looking at a modern day M1 macbook. I have the pleasure to own one for software development and graphical imagery work and frankly it‘s the single best computer I have ever used. No windows or linux machine comes close. It‘s a unix system where everything just works out of the box.

pschastain 5y ago

My last MBP only lasted 10 years of almost daily use so yeah, no practical use at all...

jaffe21 5y ago

>> I was shocked when I found out that macs are popular among people who actually work with computers and even make software. It will never cease to shock me. Yeah, wtf. It's not like people that build software for a living know anything about computers right?!

selfmodruntime 5y ago
Yea, a unix based system with a good Desktop manager in a powerhouse of a laptop. Horrible, right?

Delk 5y ago

The combination of Unix, a polished user interface and a system that Just Works(TM) appeals to a lot of tech people. That combination at least used to be a kind of a holy grail.

kaba0 5y ago
I would like to see the polished user interface that doesn’t lag on desktop switch, or the just works system, because neither of it is true of a last-intel MBP I use.

Terretta 5y ago

> The only explanation I can think of... Craftspeople appreciate good tools. Good tools don't make you better at craft, but bad tools can definitely make you worse. There's also the thing where at the start of a model cycle from Apple, you generally cannot purchase an equipment with all those performance capabilities combined at any price from anyone else. This is true of phones and laptops alike. In other words, at major new model cycles, the full combination of practical function and durable form is often not available anywhere else at any price. When your livelihood depends on your machine, you do well to invest in good tools. And "invest" is the right word, because these hold value. By the end of a model cycle, other vendors may catch up or pass the price perf curve, yet the Apple models are built in a way that holds value for double or quadruple the lifespan of a Windows laptop purchased around the same launch window. This means when you buy fresh and resell two years in, you can spend less for the top of the line functionality than when you stay in the shovel-wear class of machine. (You can even sometimes buy direct refurb and sell a year later for as much as you paid.) > It will never cease to shock me. How to say you're not open minded without saying you're not open minded? :-)

triceratops 5y ago

MBPs are amazing machines for people who work in technology. The advantages: 1. Unix-based OS 2. Outstanding battery life 3. Sturdy and long-lasting; a well-maintained Macbook will outlive any Windows laptop of equal price 4. No pre-loaded crapware 5. Best trackpad in existence 6. Secure, with patches and updates for years This more than outweighs all the other minuses, such as the overly-obsessive focus on thinness, or the outrageous cost of dongles, adapters, memory/storage upgrades, and battery replacements.

postingposts 5y ago
Lmao I have had 2 MBPs die on me and the cost to fix them is like $800 and I can’t do it myself. Fuck them.
- triceratops 5y ago
  You're a statistical outlier. Out of the millions of units they sell, someone is bound to end up with 2 lemons in a row. Sucks for you but it's not the case for millions of satisfied customers.
  - postingposts 5y ago
    Those are the ones I purchased. I have owned 5 and all 5 failed. I think Apple sucks as a result.
- Tabular-Iceberg 5y ago
  Fuck them indeed, but I can’t wait for a competitor to come out with something that checks all six boxes without the drawbacks of Apple, I need a computer that can do those things now.
  - postingposts 5y ago
    I’m giving up on laptops and sticking to desktops. The desktop I built myself has never given me any problems and it can be repaired, upgraded, and serviced on my own. I really think laptops are just trash and people are delusional about their usefulness. That’s my opinion, damn it!!!

selfmodruntime 5y ago

> They sell expensive, shiny, conspicuous consumption items without practical use Sorry, but I don‘t believe anyone who says this while looking at a modern day M1 macbook. I have the pleasure to own one for software development and graphical imagery work and frankly it‘s the single best computer I have ever used. No windows or linux machine comes close. It‘s a unix system where everything just works out of the box.