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I just got my first thinkpad in 9 years, after having spent two years on a dell xps from hell. I have to say, this is the first time in a long while I'm back in

I just got my first thinkpad in 9 years, after having spent two years on a dell xps from hell. I have to say, this is the first time in a long while I'm back in love with hardware. Got a second-hand L14 AMD G1, upped the ram and SSD (yes you can do that!) and apparently there's even an option to add another m2 ssd since the ryzen in this thing has some spare PCIe lanes that are hooked up to the WWAN slot I'm not using. My whole family and most of my colleagues use macs/iOS all over, and interacting with these things is plain infuriating to me. Plus, somehow Apple pulls an amazing PR stunt where somehow everything is purported to be easy, but really they rely on untold hours of non-volunteer work from family & friends who feel bound to help out with Mac handling, because they feel "it's apple, it has to be easy... right?" Anyhow, these are my two cents.

smileybarry 5y ago
ThinkPads are definitely nice but +1 to getting a Ryzen one. Work supplied a T15p Gen 1 with Comet Lake (GTX 1050 so GPU isn't a heatmaker) and it's basically "factory-throttling". Every single one we have just turbos to 100C (not even max clock rate) and self-throttles. There's also some critical Thunderbolt PnP bugs but I 100% blame Intel for that, it's their chipset after all. I had to make a custom power plan and send it to everyone to keep it at sane temperatures and prevent throttling (at which point it's decent). If you look at it & the T15p Gen 2 you'll see Lenovo realized their mistake and then overcompensated on cooling by doubling thickness (blech), even on non-Quadro models. But the keyboard is definitely nice and it's one of the sturdier Windows laptops I've seen, even has a neat hardware switch for the webcam.
- mrmuagi 5y ago
  I experienced factory throttling on my Thinkpad as well, its a T470p (intel) and I was able to reduce temperature by ~7-10 degrees by undervolting the cpu a teensy bit (and cpu cache as well I think). People recommended re-applying thermal paste but I got enough gains out of undervolting.

smileybarry 5y ago

ThinkPads are definitely nice but +1 to getting a Ryzen one. Work supplied a T15p Gen 1 with Comet Lake (GTX 1050 so GPU isn't a heatmaker) and it's basically "factory-throttling". Every single one we have just turbos to 100C (not even max clock rate) and self-throttles. There's also some critical Thunderbolt PnP bugs but I 100% blame Intel for that, it's their chipset after all. I had to make a custom power plan and send it to everyone to keep it at sane temperatures and prevent throttling (at which point it's decent). If you look at it & the T15p Gen 2 you'll see Lenovo realized their mistake and then overcompensated on cooling by doubling thickness (blech), even on non-Quadro models. But the keyboard is definitely nice and it's one of the sturdier Windows laptops I've seen, even has a neat hardware switch for the webcam.

mrmuagi 5y ago
I experienced factory throttling on my Thinkpad as well, its a T470p (intel) and I was able to reduce temperature by ~7-10 degrees by undervolting the cpu a teensy bit (and cpu cache as well I think). People recommended re-applying thermal paste but I got enough gains out of undervolting.