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I agree that this work ethic is indeed healthier and with most of the list, but I want to make one caveat: a programmer working secretly after hours to deliver

by ratww 5y ago

I agree that this work ethic is indeed healthier and with most of the list, but I want to make one caveat: a programmer working secretly after hours to deliver more is not really a 10x programmer, he's just someone doing unpaid overtime (and risking burnout). Truly 10x developers also only work 9-to-5, the same as 1x. I also disagree that continuously improving is unnecessary. It absolutely should IMO. But it should happen between 9-to-5, in the workplace.

manmal 5y ago
Is that really a thing, secretly working more to give the appearance of higher output, while not even getting paid for it? Given the little time we have on this planet, this sounds like a suboptimal use of it.
- ratww 5y ago
  It definitely is. It happens with over-achievers but it also happens very frequently with under-achievers. In jobs where people have quotas it is very visible, seeing people scrambling to finish it all by the end of the month, to the detriment of their free time. But this is also the "secret" of some over-achievers. It's absolutely unhealthy.
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  - manmal 5y ago
    I think I'd rather invest the extra time into OSS or a hobby project, which, even if you only do it for vanity, might even look more impressive to others.
- mywittyname 5y ago
  Crunch times are a thing in a lot of jobs.
  - manmal 5y ago
    Yes I‘ve had my fill of crunch times. But I always made my clients aware if they weren’t, and I usually earned decent money as a result.
  - ratww 5y ago
    Ego is also a thing in a lot of professions :/
- bcrosby95 5y ago
  The secretly part is usually what doesn't happen. Most brag about it. You don't get paid extra regardless because most of us are salary and don't get overtime even if you work 80 hours per week.
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