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Really? I remember being taught about pilgrims and indians in elementary school and then they simply stopped being mentioned. Nowhere did I ever read the native

by qiskit 4y ago

Really? I remember being taught about pilgrims and indians in elementary school and then they simply stopped being mentioned. Nowhere did I ever read the native americans were genocided. I certainly never read we were the bad guys exterminating the natives. Everything was couched in terms like pilgrims, settlers, explorers, etc. Nowhere in any history book are we portrayed as genocidal villains like we portray the nazis. We are portrayed as the good guys. But then again, I'm from a very blue state. How many lines were dedicated to george washington and his family's history of exterminating native americans? I'm betting 0 lines. If native americans took the country back, do you think the history will remain the same?

mjfl 4y ago
It was never moralistically portrayed like you seem to want. But definitely it was mentioned that 90% of Indians were killed by European diseases, sometimes intentionally delivered like the trail of tears, and additionally whenever gold was rumored to be on a site the indians would be pushed out.
- qiskit 4y ago
  > It was never moralistically portrayed like you seem to want. How else do you portray an intentional and centuries long systematic genocide of an entire continent of nations? How do you portray the greatest genocide in human history? > But definitely it was mentioned that 90% of Indians were killed by European diseases, sometimes intentionally delivered like the trail of tears, and additionally whenever gold was rumored to be on a site the indians would be pushed out. Nothing you listed indicate an actual genocide. You didn't read about actual hunting and raping and exterminating of natives that happened all across the country? You didn't read about actual statehood laws ( majority white ) which encouraged settlers to kill off the natives. You didn't read about the US government working with railroad tycoons to kill off the natives to build railroads? As I said, if the natives were in charge, how do you think the history will be written? We'd be portrayed as monsters far worse than nazis. That was my point. History is written by the victors. Which you proved with your comment but yet deny.

by qiskit 4y ago

mjfl 4y ago

It was never moralistically portrayed like you seem to want. But definitely it was mentioned that 90% of Indians were killed by European diseases, sometimes intentionally delivered like the trail of tears, and additionally whenever gold was rumored to be on a site the indians would be pushed out.

qiskit 4y ago
> It was never moralistically portrayed like you seem to want. How else do you portray an intentional and centuries long systematic genocide of an entire continent of nations? How do you portray the greatest genocide in human history? > But definitely it was mentioned that 90% of Indians were killed by European diseases, sometimes intentionally delivered like the trail of tears, and additionally whenever gold was rumored to be on a site the indians would be pushed out. Nothing you listed indicate an actual genocide. You didn't read about actual hunting and raping and exterminating of natives that happened all across the country? You didn't read about actual statehood laws ( majority white ) which encouraged settlers to kill off the natives. You didn't read about the US government working with railroad tycoons to kill off the natives to build railroads? As I said, if the natives were in charge, how do you think the history will be written? We'd be portrayed as monsters far worse than nazis. That was my point. History is written by the victors. Which you proved with your comment but yet deny.