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I'll bite on this one, I'm not sure Shang-Chi is deceptive. I've seen a lot of the Avengers movies but I am not an Avengers fan, I've just been around fans. M

by wsinks 4y ago

I'll bite on this one, I'm not sure Shang-Chi is deceptive. I've seen a lot of the Avengers movies but I am not an Avengers fan, I've just been around fans. Maybe I can't see the deception because I'm not privy to what makes an Avenger and Avenger, but it seems like from the movies I've seen an Avenger is typically a superhero in the Marvel comic universe. They are technically showing other superheros in the Marvel comic universe. I hadn't heard of Shang-chi, but apparently they show up for the first time in a Marvel comic in '73. So... I get that Disney as a whole is a company that uses dark patterns and therefore has lost the good faith 'we don't use dark patterns' moral heirarchy, but I'm not sure I think that this deceptive marketing has a huge difference. I could very well be wrong, I wonder what the populations of Avengers fans but not Marvel fans is compared to Avengers and Marvel fans is.

mgh2 4y ago
"Those that came before us..." refers to Shang Chi's family tree, not the Avengers, that is the deceptive message here. It leverages fan's loyalty to sell a non-established hero. Plus, depending on your interpretation, it might sound like Shang Chi is a combination or is more powerful than its "predecessors": "made us who we are today" The key with priming is that it occurs subtly, without the viewer suspecting its effect on later actions - serving the purpose of a deception, under fans' noses
- wodenokoto 4y ago
  > "Those that came before us..." refers to Shang Chi's family tree, not the Avengers, that is the deceptive message here. I kinda feel like if you know enough about Marvel to know that that line can refer to the Avengers, you also know enough about Marvel, to know that it doesn't. I have never seen an Avenger Movie, and I couldn't see this tied in more or less with other Marvel movies than ... I don't know. That one with the black thing that looks like Spawn?
  - mgh2 4y ago
    You don't need to know about the Avengers to know the difference - the movie and ad above are contradictory by themselves. I never read the comics, it is more objective that way. Maybe you mean Deadpool...
    - Fatnino 4y ago
      He means Venom

by wsinks 4y ago

mgh2 4y ago

"Those that came before us..." refers to Shang Chi's family tree, not the Avengers, that is the deceptive message here. It leverages fan's loyalty to sell a non-established hero. Plus, depending on your interpretation, it might sound like Shang Chi is a combination or is more powerful than its "predecessors": "made us who we are today" The key with priming is that it occurs subtly, without the viewer suspecting its effect on later actions - serving the purpose of a deception, under fans' noses

wodenokoto 4y ago
> "Those that came before us..." refers to Shang Chi's family tree, not the Avengers, that is the deceptive message here. I kinda feel like if you know enough about Marvel to know that that line can refer to the Avengers, you also know enough about Marvel, to know that it doesn't. I have never seen an Avenger Movie, and I couldn't see this tied in more or less with other Marvel movies than ... I don't know. That one with the black thing that looks like Spawn?
- mgh2 4y ago
  You don't need to know about the Avengers to know the difference - the movie and ad above are contradictory by themselves. I never read the comics, it is more objective that way. Maybe you mean Deadpool...
  - Fatnino 4y ago
    He means Venom