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Not sure how relevant that is against a nation state actor that’s willing to pull from airline passenger records. All they’d have have to do is get a few timed

by wswope 5y ago

Not sure how relevant that is against a nation state actor that’s willing to pull from airline passenger records. All they’d have have to do is get a few timed hits for your location and then look for a common IMEI at nearby towers.

smilespray 5y ago
And if you have a burner phone, they can just track which IMEIs tend to travel together.
Symbiote 5y ago
> a nation state actor I am a bit of a broken record on this point, but it's a state actor. Spain comprises multiple nations, Catalonia being one of them.
- nudpiedo 5y ago
  Nowhere in its constitution is defined like that, it’s not a confederation of nations but a parliamentarian monarchy that respects regional cultural differences.
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  - ikurei 5y ago
    No official document, not even the Constitution, can be a final authority on what a nation is. That's just the official definition. Many scholars, politicians, and citizens, even excluding people outside of the Overton window, describe Spain as containing several nations. At the very least Catalonia, the Basque Country / Euskal Herria, and Galicia are widely (but not unanimously) considered to have the historic, cultural, social characteristics that would make them nations. The spanish constitution is a document of compromise, born of a very special time in history; whatever it says about what Spain is, we don't have to accept it. (Biases disclaimer: I'm Spanish, specifically castilian; I don't support Catalonian independence, and I dislike all nationalisms; all nations are more like big balls of wibbly wobbly... nation-y wimey... stuff) This piece of news doesn't yet show up on the spanish newspapers I trust; I'm really curious to see if it makes the news. I'll be extremely concern if, as I fear, if doesn't.
    - pvaldes 5y ago
      "Many people are saying that or this" We are very misunderstood, for sure.
- greggsy 5y ago
  ‘Nation state’ is the appropriate term of art in the context of cyber security. The fact that a domestic service appears to be attacking an area that is seeking autonomy makes it more relevant.
- permalac 5y ago
  Only one of them control the state, and that is and has always been Castilla. This may be a technical forum, people can Google it up and do some deep research.
  - pvaldes 5y ago
    > Only one of them control the state, and that is and has always been Castilla. More BS. Are you saying that the Catalonian politicians in the government are spies from Castilla? Maybe disguised under evil twisted castillian moustaches?. Please, lets be serious. I can see politicians from each coin of Spain in the government.
- novok 5y ago
  Getting upset about people confusing the difference between nation and state is like getting upset about people using hacker to mean computer criminal. That ship has sailed long time ago. Also when you dive into what 'nation' really means, it starts hitting people's racism and 'X supremacy' instincts fairly quickly, so people use the word ethnicity or culture instead nowadays.

by wswope 5y ago

smilespray 5y ago

And if you have a burner phone, they can just track which IMEIs tend to travel together.

Symbiote 5y ago

> a nation state actor I am a bit of a broken record on this point, but it's a state actor. Spain comprises multiple nations, Catalonia being one of them.

nudpiedo 5y ago
Nowhere in its constitution is defined like that, it’s not a confederation of nations but a parliamentarian monarchy that respects regional cultural differences.
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- ikurei 5y ago
  No official document, not even the Constitution, can be a final authority on what a nation is. That's just the official definition. Many scholars, politicians, and citizens, even excluding people outside of the Overton window, describe Spain as containing several nations. At the very least Catalonia, the Basque Country / Euskal Herria, and Galicia are widely (but not unanimously) considered to have the historic, cultural, social characteristics that would make them nations. The spanish constitution is a document of compromise, born of a very special time in history; whatever it says about what Spain is, we don't have to accept it. (Biases disclaimer: I'm Spanish, specifically castilian; I don't support Catalonian independence, and I dislike all nationalisms; all nations are more like big balls of wibbly wobbly... nation-y wimey... stuff) This piece of news doesn't yet show up on the spanish newspapers I trust; I'm really curious to see if it makes the news. I'll be extremely concern if, as I fear, if doesn't.
  - pvaldes 5y ago
    "Many people are saying that or this" We are very misunderstood, for sure.
greggsy 5y ago
‘Nation state’ is the appropriate term of art in the context of cyber security. The fact that a domestic service appears to be attacking an area that is seeking autonomy makes it more relevant.
permalac 5y ago
Only one of them control the state, and that is and has always been Castilla. This may be a technical forum, people can Google it up and do some deep research.
- pvaldes 5y ago
  > Only one of them control the state, and that is and has always been Castilla. More BS. Are you saying that the Catalonian politicians in the government are spies from Castilla? Maybe disguised under evil twisted castillian moustaches?. Please, lets be serious. I can see politicians from each coin of Spain in the government.
novok 5y ago
Getting upset about people confusing the difference between nation and state is like getting upset about people using hacker to mean computer criminal. That ship has sailed long time ago. Also when you dive into what 'nation' really means, it starts hitting people's racism and 'X supremacy' instincts fairly quickly, so people use the word ethnicity or culture instead nowadays.