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You report it to the police, and police finds the perpetrators and fines the shit out of them.

______-_-______ 4y ago
Most of those calls originate in India. How do they deal with international calls? EDIT: I was just commenting on the physical geographic location of the callers, not anybody's race or nationality
- xeromal 4y ago
  No, you're right. How can local police go find someone calling from outside the country. It's impossible.
jimhefferon 4y ago
You have a lot of expectations of the police.
- dottedmag 4y ago
  Some police forces are better than the others, of course.
  - nosianu 4y ago
    I, German, once saw a mail-crime being done as the co-owner of a UPS associated package handling business. Some scammer had sent mail to people and they were sending back - to a post box we managed (we had not know what it would be for when it was ordered) - actual money. We called the police - and they said it wasn't their responsibility. Everything was done voluntarily after all. I called a well-known organization - they do just shrugged and told us to just go ahead, nobody would and could do anything. Pretty much that if people were so stupid to fall for it and sent money vial mail to unknown people, quite voluntarily even if scammed, they could not do anything. The scammers used a Delaware company and a Canadian address and they were sending their scam mail (actual mail) to Germans. Probably bought some address list somewhere. No chance to find them, but even preventing the ongoing scam was nobody's priority. Also, I once returned a wallet thick with various cards, all paper money already stolen but things like drivers license and other important documents still inside. I brought it to the police. I waited for almost an hour in line, and then it took more than another hour of the officer documenting every single item in the thick wallet. He had to, he could not just write "wallet", it had to be every single item. I highly doubt the police will do anything. Scams don't seem to be anything the police will go after, maybe some very high level stuff when it's about millions. They are also very busy writing reports and doing other important paperwork... /s Googling I just found that there are 760 cases of bike theft per day in Germany. Less than a tenth of them are found. -- https://blog.alh.de/taeglich-werden-ueber-760-fahrraeder-gestohlen/ https://blog.alh.de/taeglich-werden-ueber-760-fahrraeder-ges... -- There is just too much "small stuff" for police. If anyone gets murdered I just have to wait a day or two for the newspapers to announce the murderer has been found. On the other hand, for small crimes I expect not much is going to happen apart from filing the report (which I'm sure alone takes up plenty of time).
BitwiseFool 4y ago
Sadly, to 'report it to the police' is easier said than done. I know my local police department lacks jurisdiction and the best I can do is submit a report to the FCC. But what use is reporting the dozens of spam calls I receive every day to an agency that seems to lack the means to go after sophisticated spammers outside of the United States? It's not like these spammers use real contact information (they use dynamic fake phone numbers) and operate inside of the US. I suspect virtually all such reports end up being used for metrics and no actual prosecutorial case is created out of them.

Most of those calls originate in India. How do they deal with international calls? EDIT: I was just commenting on the physical geographic location of the callers, not anybody's race or nationality

xeromal 4y ago
No, you're right. How can local police go find someone calling from outside the country. It's impossible.

jimhefferon 4y ago

You have a lot of expectations of the police.

dottedmag 4y ago
Some police forces are better than the others, of course.
- nosianu 4y ago
  I, German, once saw a mail-crime being done as the co-owner of a UPS associated package handling business. Some scammer had sent mail to people and they were sending back - to a post box we managed (we had not know what it would be for when it was ordered) - actual money. We called the police - and they said it wasn't their responsibility. Everything was done voluntarily after all. I called a well-known organization - they do just shrugged and told us to just go ahead, nobody would and could do anything. Pretty much that if people were so stupid to fall for it and sent money vial mail to unknown people, quite voluntarily even if scammed, they could not do anything. The scammers used a Delaware company and a Canadian address and they were sending their scam mail (actual mail) to Germans. Probably bought some address list somewhere. No chance to find them, but even preventing the ongoing scam was nobody's priority. Also, I once returned a wallet thick with various cards, all paper money already stolen but things like drivers license and other important documents still inside. I brought it to the police. I waited for almost an hour in line, and then it took more than another hour of the officer documenting every single item in the thick wallet. He had to, he could not just write "wallet", it had to be every single item. I highly doubt the police will do anything. Scams don't seem to be anything the police will go after, maybe some very high level stuff when it's about millions. They are also very busy writing reports and doing other important paperwork... /s Googling I just found that there are 760 cases of bike theft per day in Germany. Less than a tenth of them are found. -- https://blog.alh.de/taeglich-werden-ueber-760-fahrraeder-gestohlen/ https://blog.alh.de/taeglich-werden-ueber-760-fahrraeder-ges... -- There is just too much "small stuff" for police. If anyone gets murdered I just have to wait a day or two for the newspapers to announce the murderer has been found. On the other hand, for small crimes I expect not much is going to happen apart from filing the report (which I'm sure alone takes up plenty of time).

BitwiseFool 4y ago

Sadly, to 'report it to the police' is easier said than done. I know my local police department lacks jurisdiction and the best I can do is submit a report to the FCC. But what use is reporting the dozens of spam calls I receive every day to an agency that seems to lack the means to go after sophisticated spammers outside of the United States? It's not like these spammers use real contact information (they use dynamic fake phone numbers) and operate inside of the US. I suspect virtually all such reports end up being used for metrics and no actual prosecutorial case is created out of them.