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It's illegal in the US too. But the nature of our phone system here leaves us open to (largely) untraceable calls from foreign countries.
by legitster 5y ago
It's illegal in the US too. But the nature of our phone system here leaves us open to (largely) untraceable calls from foreign countries.
- raverbashing 5y agoFor real, I'm not sure why people haven't thrown the book at the "car's extended warranty" people yet. I mean, they should have an entity in the US no?
- MiddleEndian 5y agoNot necessarily. They can call you from (almost?) any country and put whatever number they want in their caller ID, and your phone company will just blindly show you that number.
- raverbashing 5y agoWhat I mean is, if they want to sell you a service (as BS as it is) they have a legal entity in the US
- MiddleEndian 5y agoFair, not familiar with that, maybe they have a way to get cash out of the country? Regardless, there are a lot of fraudulent and misleading companies US-based companies that should probably be shut down.
- antiframe 5y agoWait, what? Can you cite the statute? Are you confusing cold calling with spamming? Here, for example, is the SEC page describing rules that cold callers need to follow: https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answerscoldhtm.html https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answerscoldhtm.html I think the post you were replying to was saying cold calling in Germany is illegal full stop. I don't think that is the case in be US.
- legitster 5y agoThe big one though is the Do Not Call Registry. Over 240 million Americans are on it and it is severely inforced. The problem is chasing companies not in US jurisdiction.
- antiframe 5y agoYes, that's fair. But the reason that list exists is because it is legal to cold call. Having an opt-out is much weaker than an opt-in. It sounds like the German system is opt-in (per company).
- rtpg 5y agoIs there a difference between Germany and US in regards to the phone system?
- willis936 5y agoWhat's untraceable about it? The carriers know the original phone number and know when it doesn't match the caller ID field. There is no technical limitation. It is allowed behavior and that must change.
- xeromal 5y agoI don't understand the technicalities behind how they do it, but SPAM calls in the US can spoof their phone numbers. I'm not sure if it's pre or post carrier connection.
- willis936 5y agoSpam spoofs the caller ID field. The calls are routed by the ISP so the ISP sees everything (including that the source address and caller ID address are differ, ie spoofed) and allow it. It would be trivial to flip the switch on spam.
- meragrin_ 5y ago> It's illegal in the US No. It most certainly is not. It may be illegal in your locality, but it is certainly legal in most of the US. The federal Do Not Call list would be useless if it were illegal.