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>require overcoming tremendous challenges, including refueling infrastructure, battery availability, consumer acceptance, and affordability This is a laughable

by 1970-01-01 5y ago

>require overcoming tremendous challenges, including refueling infrastructure, battery availability, consumer acceptance, and affordability This is a laughable quote. Tesla built their own charging infrastructure [1], designed and secured their battery supply [2], doesn't advertise, [3] and is selling to millions [4]. Toyota missed their e-chance and have no right to "warn us" about electrification. [1] https://www.finder.com/tesla-superchargers-map https://www.finder.com/tesla-superchargers-map [2] https://electrek.co/2021/11/01/tesla-secures-lithium-supply-contract-ganfeng-lithium/ https://electrek.co/2021/11/01/tesla-secures-lithium-supply-... [3] https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-marketing-strategy-is-no-advertising/ https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-marketing-strategy-is-no-adv... [4] https://cleantechnica.com/2021/01/02/tesla-499550-vehicles-delivered-in-2020-509737-vehicles-produced/ https://cleantechnica.com/2021/01/02/tesla-499550-vehicles-d... https://www.engadget.com/tesla-q4-2021-year-end-deliveries-sales-production-183514314.html https://www.engadget.com/tesla-q4-2021-year-end-deliveries-s...

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
Tesla's self-built infrastructure manages to deal with the (perhaps) 2.5M cars they have put on the road. That's roughly 1% of the total number of automobiles in the USA. I don't think I need to say any more.
- JohnJamesRambo 5y ago
  I was just talking to my girlfriend about this the other day. Even in our low Tesla usage state the chargers are increasingly occupied. We pull up and now 6/8 stalls are being used. What happens when even a fraction of all the gas cars switch over? What happens when 100% of the population needs them and needs to charge for an hour? I don’t know.
  - colordrops 5y ago
    Charge at home! We go to a supercharger once every few months.
    - JohnJamesRambo 5y ago
      We already do. But trips to the big city require a charge to get back home.
  - vardump 5y ago
    Wouldn't simply building more charging stations work? Other angle is to increase charging speeds. Of course this might require better batteries, but I'm sure they're improving.
  - ip26 5y ago
    Demand -> Volume -> Economies of scale -> Competition -> Even More Chargers Many of the superchargers people use today were built by 2012-2019 Tesla, which had far less revenue, people, and fleet volume.

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago

Tesla's self-built infrastructure manages to deal with the (perhaps) 2.5M cars they have put on the road. That's roughly 1% of the total number of automobiles in the USA. I don't think I need to say any more.

JohnJamesRambo 5y ago
I was just talking to my girlfriend about this the other day. Even in our low Tesla usage state the chargers are increasingly occupied. We pull up and now 6/8 stalls are being used. What happens when even a fraction of all the gas cars switch over? What happens when 100% of the population needs them and needs to charge for an hour? I don’t know.
- colordrops 5y ago
  Charge at home! We go to a supercharger once every few months.
  - JohnJamesRambo 5y ago
    We already do. But trips to the big city require a charge to get back home.
- vardump 5y ago
  Wouldn't simply building more charging stations work? Other angle is to increase charging speeds. Of course this might require better batteries, but I'm sure they're improving.
- ip26 5y ago
  Demand -> Volume -> Economies of scale -> Competition -> Even More Chargers Many of the superchargers people use today were built by 2012-2019 Tesla, which had far less revenue, people, and fleet volume.