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I'm the OP and co-founder of Pllop. We used Pllop to adapt Neil Davidson's presentation about efficient business plans into a responsive website. Layout adjusts

I'm the OP and co-founder of Pllop. We used Pllop to adapt Neil Davidson's presentation about efficient business plans into a responsive website. Layout adjusts to different screen sizes and orientations. Making-of video is included on the last page. Be gentle with it, we are still in beta ;-)

davidw 15y ago
Making the page-up and page-down buttons, or spacebar, or something, work, would beat having to click on the disappearing arrows to go through it. On a tangent, Amazon keeps pushing the Lean Startup book in my recommendations, but... I have a nagging doubt that it's not going to tell me much, and that it's going to be significantly less "hands on" than Rob Walling's book, which has tons of real things to do and try. I also get the impression that the lean startup book is there in part to sell you on hiring Eric to help your !startup get leaner. But I haven't read it... Comments? Edit: http://www.amazon.com/review/R3287ICLQ9STI3/ref=cm_cr_dp_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B004J4XGN6&nodeID=133140011&tag=&linkCode=#wasThisHelpful http://www.amazon.com/review/R3287ICLQ9STI3/ref=cm_cr_dp_cmt... is one of the first reviews on the book, and it's not all that positive.
- dkokelley 15y ago
  The arrow keys worked for me.
- ks 15y ago
  I think it would help if any mouse click outside the arrows would change pages. It would probably also help mobile users.
- mdda 15y ago
  On the book : The tone is a lot more like a 'Management Book' than the (very engaging) blog and videos. If you'd like to dig out the content yourself, to see whether it's just self-advertising, start with : http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2008/11/what-is-customer-development.html http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2008/11/what-is-custome... http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2009/08/minimum-viable-product-guide.html http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2009/08/minimum-viable-...
Jem 15y ago
> Layout adjusts to different screen sizes and orientations. But only if you have JavaScript enabled.
- hypest 15y ago
  Shameless plug: exactly why I'm using html+css for laying out the new design of costpad.com. Example (in early alpha stage... just try browser window resizing please): http://costpad.com/ci/item/view/75 http://costpad.com/ci/item/view/75
- Jem 15y ago
  Don't usually question down votes, but I am genuinely confused about this one. To me, the whole point of responsive web design is exactly that - responding/adapting to the limitations of the user's screen / browser / set up. As far as I'm concerned, the lack of JavaScript should be considered the same.
nickolai 15y ago
> Layout adjusts to different screen sizes and orientations I am getting very weird slide jums when resizing the browser window on any slide after the first one(resizing seems to only work on the first slide, on Firefox 7.0.1 at least)
- mattront 15y ago
  Thanks for the feedback!
thorin_2 15y ago
It worked fine in my browser (IE9) but horribly on my iPhone (iOS4.x), same experience as the previous poster. I would be more gentle in my critique if Pllop's main claim to fame wasn't the ability to build it once and render on any device. Did you even test it before going beta? I have to say that I DO like the idea and believe it could gain mass adoption IF one could host the Pllop engine on one's own hosting service, much like I can do with WordPress or Joomla today, rather than being tied to Pllop's domain. "Powered by Pllop" or whatever attribution, perhaps only removable when a license fee is paid (way to monetize). Good luck.
synnik 15y ago
I'm very turned off by the violent imagery on the first 2 slides. I find it extremely unprofessional and it makes me have no interest in the content, and think very poorly of the people who put this together. Obviously, I'm just one person with one opinion, so that it for what it is worth.
- thepumpkin1979 15y ago
  Wow, I didn't realize the violent stuff until you mention it, in fact, I love the presentation so much that I went directly to know how they did it and started playing with the tool... (who knows if I am a psychopath)
kalleboo 15y ago
Most of the page is cut off on Android (2.3.3)

davidw 15y ago

Making the page-up and page-down buttons, or spacebar, or something, work, would beat having to click on the disappearing arrows to go through it. On a tangent, Amazon keeps pushing the Lean Startup book in my recommendations, but... I have a nagging doubt that it's not going to tell me much, and that it's going to be significantly less "hands on" than Rob Walling's book, which has tons of real things to do and try. I also get the impression that the lean startup book is there in part to sell you on hiring Eric to help your !startup get leaner. But I haven't read it... Comments? Edit: http://www.amazon.com/review/R3287ICLQ9STI3/ref=cm_cr_dp_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B004J4XGN6&nodeID=133140011&tag=&linkCode=#wasThisHelpful http://www.amazon.com/review/R3287ICLQ9STI3/ref=cm_cr_dp_cmt... is one of the first reviews on the book, and it's not all that positive.

dkokelley 15y ago
The arrow keys worked for me.
ks 15y ago
I think it would help if any mouse click outside the arrows would change pages. It would probably also help mobile users.
mdda 15y ago
On the book : The tone is a lot more like a 'Management Book' than the (very engaging) blog and videos. If you'd like to dig out the content yourself, to see whether it's just self-advertising, start with : http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2008/11/what-is-customer-development.html http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2008/11/what-is-custome... http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2009/08/minimum-viable-product-guide.html http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2009/08/minimum-viable-...

Jem 15y ago

> Layout adjusts to different screen sizes and orientations. But only if you have JavaScript enabled.

hypest 15y ago
Shameless plug: exactly why I'm using html+css for laying out the new design of costpad.com. Example (in early alpha stage... just try browser window resizing please): http://costpad.com/ci/item/view/75 http://costpad.com/ci/item/view/75
Jem 15y ago
Don't usually question down votes, but I am genuinely confused about this one. To me, the whole point of responsive web design is exactly that - responding/adapting to the limitations of the user's screen / browser / set up. As far as I'm concerned, the lack of JavaScript should be considered the same.

nickolai 15y ago

> Layout adjusts to different screen sizes and orientations I am getting very weird slide jums when resizing the browser window on any slide after the first one(resizing seems to only work on the first slide, on Firefox 7.0.1 at least)

mattront 15y ago
Thanks for the feedback!

thorin_2 15y ago

It worked fine in my browser (IE9) but horribly on my iPhone (iOS4.x), same experience as the previous poster. I would be more gentle in my critique if Pllop's main claim to fame wasn't the ability to build it once and render on any device. Did you even test it before going beta? I have to say that I DO like the idea and believe it could gain mass adoption IF one could host the Pllop engine on one's own hosting service, much like I can do with WordPress or Joomla today, rather than being tied to Pllop's domain. "Powered by Pllop" or whatever attribution, perhaps only removable when a license fee is paid (way to monetize). Good luck.

synnik 15y ago

I'm very turned off by the violent imagery on the first 2 slides. I find it extremely unprofessional and it makes me have no interest in the content, and think very poorly of the people who put this together. Obviously, I'm just one person with one opinion, so that it for what it is worth.

thepumpkin1979 15y ago
Wow, I didn't realize the violent stuff until you mention it, in fact, I love the presentation so much that I went directly to know how they did it and started playing with the tool... (who knows if I am a psychopath)

kalleboo 15y ago

Most of the page is cut off on Android (2.3.3)