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It's not just the economic factor. There is a social aspect of eating that is very hard to ignore. It's why I stopped doing Keto and went with IF. Breakfast is

It's not just the economic factor. There is a social aspect of eating that is very hard to ignore. It's why I stopped doing Keto and went with IF. Breakfast is still in my control so I can skip it. But turning down social invitations to eat out because almost all of our food has lots of carbs was unsustainable to me.

inglor_cz 5y ago
This factor nudged me towards abandoning breakfast as well. Socially, it is better to eat in the second half of the day. It helped that I am not very hungry in the mornings. I experimented with a continuous glucose monitor (CGM) and apparently I have a small bump in glucose levels immediately after waking up (not anything massive, but definitely noticeable on the graph), which probably means that the body is anticipating some energy consumption and is ready to cover it from internal sources.
tomxor 5y ago
I think intermittent fasting is way more sustainable. You are also achieving roughly the same thing, because your body does ketosis anyway as soon as you stop eating for even a short amount of time e.g while sleeping. "keto" diet is just trying to find a way to allow you to continuously eat without breaking it. I only do IF in terms of eating one main meal a day, i've never intentionally done this, i'm just not a morning person, and lunch always felt optional - However I've noticed quite clearly that even a small sugar-laced high-carb snack will destroy this for the day, e.g if I decide to have a croissant one morning as I occasionally do (not because i'm particularly hungry but because it looks damn tasty), then I have to accept that today i'm going to be more hungry and want to eat more - it's these big sugary carbs outside of meal time that keep everyone's hunger up by switching off ketosis. For comparison, having a few nuts is a much better snack, it doesn't make you more hungry because you are able to continue burning fat afterwards.
listless 5y ago
I’m just coming off Keto for those same reasons. What is your IF routine? I’ve been doing 12 - 7, but it sounds like a lot of people here are shortening that window.
- arvinsim 5y ago
  Doing 12-8 with some cheat days where I cannot control where I eat.

inglor_cz 5y ago

This factor nudged me towards abandoning breakfast as well. Socially, it is better to eat in the second half of the day. It helped that I am not very hungry in the mornings. I experimented with a continuous glucose monitor (CGM) and apparently I have a small bump in glucose levels immediately after waking up (not anything massive, but definitely noticeable on the graph), which probably means that the body is anticipating some energy consumption and is ready to cover it from internal sources.

tomxor 5y ago

I think intermittent fasting is way more sustainable. You are also achieving roughly the same thing, because your body does ketosis anyway as soon as you stop eating for even a short amount of time e.g while sleeping. "keto" diet is just trying to find a way to allow you to continuously eat without breaking it. I only do IF in terms of eating one main meal a day, i've never intentionally done this, i'm just not a morning person, and lunch always felt optional - However I've noticed quite clearly that even a small sugar-laced high-carb snack will destroy this for the day, e.g if I decide to have a croissant one morning as I occasionally do (not because i'm particularly hungry but because it looks damn tasty), then I have to accept that today i'm going to be more hungry and want to eat more - it's these big sugary carbs outside of meal time that keep everyone's hunger up by switching off ketosis. For comparison, having a few nuts is a much better snack, it doesn't make you more hungry because you are able to continue burning fat afterwards.

listless 5y ago

I’m just coming off Keto for those same reasons. What is your IF routine? I’ve been doing 12 - 7, but it sounds like a lot of people here are shortening that window.

arvinsim 5y ago
Doing 12-8 with some cheat days where I cannot control where I eat.