> The cause would likely not exist or at least be much weaker if not for Stallman and the FSF and GNU. Sure, but that was back in the 80s and this is now. Tha

> The cause would likely not exist or at least be much weaker if not for Stallman and the FSF and GNU. Sure, but that was back in the 80s and this is now. That someone had a lot of good ideas and did good work 35 years ago doesn't mean they're not hampering it today. I once worked for a business where the owner worked very hard to build things up (or so I heard), but when I worked there all he really used his business for was to show his boyfriends around to impress them or something; I rarely saw him. That's all fine, except that the business was directionless and basic stuff wasn't getting done (like, say, my employment contract). Eventually there was a bit of an intervention and he was ousted (his dad also owned part of the company), which was badly needed because he was really running things in to the ground, in spite of having built it up in the first place. > Ubuntu isn't going to stop what they are doing because of Stallman's ideas. No, but the FSF could be promoting Ubuntu instead of railing against it. If I'm interested in Free Software and find the FSF website then all I get are unpractical solutions. But what the FSF really should be doing is lobby this kind of thing with governments, schools, corporations and such.