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I totally understand your point and anticipated there will be pushback like this. However, from what I've observed, there seems to be a significant lack of act

I totally understand your point and anticipated there will be pushback like this. However, from what I've observed, there seems to be a significant lack of actually helpful support and resources for people who fall into these two categories: 1) People who think their problems aren't serious enough to seek therapy 2) People who have seen therapy but haven't gotten much success from it I'm sorry if my big intro wasn't clear enough and gave the wrong impression. I haven't figured out my elevator pitch yet and that's exactly why I'm here testing things out.

textadventure 4y ago
If you are serious about helping people, you'd encourage anyone who is feeling lost and confused to seek professional help. If you can facilitate that somehow, provide people with free options, social workers, hot lines, etc, you'd have something of value. I still think that putting yourself out there to lend an ear to strangers is irresponsible. Because this is not about someone who you've come across in your life and you have a talk and maybe give some advice, you'd be actively encouraging people to talk to you and that's the irresponsible part. Your intentions may be good, but this is not the right way to go about it.
throwaway675309 4y ago
Even if you intend on not charging money or want to keep it available to low income or keep the barrier low, there's a reason that formal standards exist, and to forgo that knowledge because you ostensibly possess "above average intuition and earthy wisdom" seems hopelessly naïve to me. I would highly advise that you at least be open to the option of undergoing some actual training.
- samh748 4y ago
  This is a good point. Thanks for that. :)
  - em-bee 4y ago
    my thought on this is that it would be good if you at least understand what each of these professions are about so that you can recognize your limitations and understand when the person seeking help needs something more serious that you can't provide. i think what you want to do is essentially what i would consider being a good but also knowledgeable friend. a good friend tries to help where they can, but not all friends understand what help a person actually needs. for many situations having a good friend is enough, but in some situations the best thing a good friend can do is to say that it's time to seek professional help. and maybe they already know that they need professional help but don't know how or where to get it. so you can be an intermediary where people can get support for smaller things or be pointed in the right direction if there are serious issues to tackle.
    - samh748 4y ago
      That's a very good point. I'm starting to realize my limitations and am thinking of doing something a bit different. But it's all good food for thought. Thank you all for your constructive feedback!
      - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
        Even if you triage folks and get them to the correct "professionals", that's a hell of an added value. I believe billing it as a "Everything else not working? Give us a try!", instead of a first line of support, could also structure the liability in a fair way. ...I even have a couple killer ideas for the name of the non-profit!

textadventure 4y ago

If you are serious about helping people, you'd encourage anyone who is feeling lost and confused to seek professional help. If you can facilitate that somehow, provide people with free options, social workers, hot lines, etc, you'd have something of value. I still think that putting yourself out there to lend an ear to strangers is irresponsible. Because this is not about someone who you've come across in your life and you have a talk and maybe give some advice, you'd be actively encouraging people to talk to you and that's the irresponsible part. Your intentions may be good, but this is not the right way to go about it.

throwaway675309 4y ago

Even if you intend on not charging money or want to keep it available to low income or keep the barrier low, there's a reason that formal standards exist, and to forgo that knowledge because you ostensibly possess "above average intuition and earthy wisdom" seems hopelessly naïve to me. I would highly advise that you at least be open to the option of undergoing some actual training.

samh748 4y ago
This is a good point. Thanks for that. :)
- em-bee 4y ago
  my thought on this is that it would be good if you at least understand what each of these professions are about so that you can recognize your limitations and understand when the person seeking help needs something more serious that you can't provide. i think what you want to do is essentially what i would consider being a good but also knowledgeable friend. a good friend tries to help where they can, but not all friends understand what help a person actually needs. for many situations having a good friend is enough, but in some situations the best thing a good friend can do is to say that it's time to seek professional help. and maybe they already know that they need professional help but don't know how or where to get it. so you can be an intermediary where people can get support for smaller things or be pointed in the right direction if there are serious issues to tackle.
  - samh748 4y ago
    That's a very good point. I'm starting to realize my limitations and am thinking of doing something a bit different. But it's all good food for thought. Thank you all for your constructive feedback!
    - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
      Even if you triage folks and get them to the correct "professionals", that's a hell of an added value. I believe billing it as a "Everything else not working? Give us a try!", instead of a first line of support, could also structure the liability in a fair way. ...I even have a couple killer ideas for the name of the non-profit!