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Also, a thing to note is that HN has user hierarchy, meaning certain users have more power than others, more or less based on karma. Which does mean that if you

Also, a thing to note is that HN has user hierarchy, meaning certain users have more power than others, more or less based on karma. Which does mean that if you're thinking an easy of expressing your thought doesn't align well enough with those above you, your experience of HN will be crippled. Like with all things in life, HN could be better, more accepting to different thinking people. There have been times when seeing what gets up voted and what gets down voted really made me think twice about what people that are running this website are actually thinking. Also also, not sure if this is specific only to me or if it happens to others who's first language isn't English but quite often when I ask a question users assume the worst and think that in just trolling and down vote, making the website less useful... But! Compared to pretty much any other content aggregator, HN is, content wise much better, even if the comments experience can get worse then Reddit.

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yesenadam 5y ago
> Also, a thing to note is that HN has user hierarchy, meaning certain users have more power than others, more or less based on karma. Which does mean that if you're thinking an easy of expressing your thought doesn't align well enough with those above you, your experience of HN will be crippled. I have no idea what you're talking about here, apparently more than just newbies not being able to downvote - could you give an example or two? Maybe it's just a sinister way of describing being downvoted but not being able to downvote others. > There have been times when seeing what gets up voted and what gets down voted really made me think twice about what people that are running this website are actually thinking. Uh, it's not the "people running the website" who do the voting, not sure what you mean. If you really are curious about what the people running HN are thinking, email dang at hn@ycombinator.com and just ask. It's not a hidden, mysterious, shadowy entity. Or, reading his comments on here for an hour or two should answer most questions. p.s. It seems likely you meant way but typed eay or esy and it was auto-corrected to easy?
- exolymph 5y ago
  For example, you can't flag or vouch posts unless you have a certain amount of karma.
  - yesenadam 5y ago
    And that cripples your experience of HN? Unfortunately, it's hard/impossible to talk about this properly, because of that sentence starting "Which does mean that if you're thinking an easy of expressing". I can't work out what grammatical sentence they could've been going for, what they meant exactly, it's such a mangled mess. I try to repair it but can't.
    - drakonka 5y ago
      Despite the slight language or spelling barrier I still feel like I got what OP was trying to say without much trouble. I'm actually curious if you're trying to illustrate the following part of their comment with your replies? > Also also, not sure if this is specific only to me or if it happens to others who's first language isn't English but quite often when I ask a question users assume the worst and think that in just trolling and down vote, making the website less useful...
      - yesenadam 5y ago
        Please assume good faith, your comment is just insulting. I will assume you didn't mean to be. That's great you understood it without much trouble. Consider it possible that, as I've said several times, I couldn't. So can you please turn/correct this into understandable english for me? "Which does mean that if you're thinking an easy of expressing your thought doesn't align well enough with those above you, your experience of HN will be crippled." Well, I think that would just be guesswork, so maybe don't worry about it. I tried, but can't believe that you're "actually curious if you're trying to illustrate the following part of their comment", i.e. that I'm deliberately trolling. You are just 'cleverly' being mean, while accusing me of the same. Don't play such games on HN, thanks. I'm not interested in playing, and utterly regret taking part in this thread.

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yesenadam 5y ago

> Also, a thing to note is that HN has user hierarchy, meaning certain users have more power than others, more or less based on karma. Which does mean that if you're thinking an easy of expressing your thought doesn't align well enough with those above you, your experience of HN will be crippled. I have no idea what you're talking about here, apparently more than just newbies not being able to downvote - could you give an example or two? Maybe it's just a sinister way of describing being downvoted but not being able to downvote others. > There have been times when seeing what gets up voted and what gets down voted really made me think twice about what people that are running this website are actually thinking. Uh, it's not the "people running the website" who do the voting, not sure what you mean. If you really are curious about what the people running HN are thinking, email dang at hn@ycombinator.com and just ask. It's not a hidden, mysterious, shadowy entity. Or, reading his comments on here for an hour or two should answer most questions. p.s. It seems likely you meant way but typed eay or esy and it was auto-corrected to easy?

exolymph 5y ago
For example, you can't flag or vouch posts unless you have a certain amount of karma.
- yesenadam 5y ago
  And that cripples your experience of HN? Unfortunately, it's hard/impossible to talk about this properly, because of that sentence starting "Which does mean that if you're thinking an easy of expressing". I can't work out what grammatical sentence they could've been going for, what they meant exactly, it's such a mangled mess. I try to repair it but can't.
  - drakonka 5y ago
    Despite the slight language or spelling barrier I still feel like I got what OP was trying to say without much trouble. I'm actually curious if you're trying to illustrate the following part of their comment with your replies? > Also also, not sure if this is specific only to me or if it happens to others who's first language isn't English but quite often when I ask a question users assume the worst and think that in just trolling and down vote, making the website less useful...
    - yesenadam 5y ago
      Please assume good faith, your comment is just insulting. I will assume you didn't mean to be. That's great you understood it without much trouble. Consider it possible that, as I've said several times, I couldn't. So can you please turn/correct this into understandable english for me? "Which does mean that if you're thinking an easy of expressing your thought doesn't align well enough with those above you, your experience of HN will be crippled." Well, I think that would just be guesswork, so maybe don't worry about it. I tried, but can't believe that you're "actually curious if you're trying to illustrate the following part of their comment", i.e. that I'm deliberately trolling. You are just 'cleverly' being mean, while accusing me of the same. Don't play such games on HN, thanks. I'm not interested in playing, and utterly regret taking part in this thread.