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Gas Station in Denver with Kilowatt Hour Pricing

12 points by aaronbrethorst 5y ago

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rektide 5y ago
33.7 kWh per gallon of gas so, multiply by .159 $/kWh to get... $5.35 per gallon-equivalent of electricity. Well shit. Good thing electric motors are so efficient. Still, kind of bonkers that our utility power grid can't compete effectively at delivering power versus say refining oil & shipping it around in tanker trucks.
- carlmr 5y ago
  >Good thing electric motors are so efficient. This should also be taken into account. Output power is what helps you get somewhere. I think with the gas car you maybe get 30% on average? With an electric maybe 80%? >kind of bonkers that our utility power grid can't compete effectively at delivering power versus say refining oil & shipping it around in tanker trucks. Supply and demand? In capitalism supply is usually just as good as it needs to be to meet demand. With growing electricity demand, the infrastructure has to improve. If not electricity becomes more expensive until someone finds that they can gain money from building better infrastructure. The issue here is mostly that you often get stuck in a local maximum when you've invested too much in one technology.
  - rektide 5y ago
    None of these words make me feel any different or better. The tough love sell conceals the sad sad truth. It really seems absurd to me that drilling out energy from the ground, shipping it, refining it, then transporting it again to gas station pumps has been half the price of what a lot of folks pay to get the same energy amounts sent to their homes. Powergrids should be an easy lock in win here for efficiency versus all this shipping shit, and that value should show up the bottom line quite obviously. We should be trying to improve generation costs, investing in improvement. Renewables, nuclear, improved & cleaner natural resource-based generation... it feels like there is work to do.

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Gas Station in Denver with Kilowatt Hour Pricing

12 points by aaronbrethorst 5y ago

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rektide 5y ago
33.7 kWh per gallon of gas so, multiply by .159 $/kWh to get... $5.35 per gallon-equivalent of electricity. Well shit. Good thing electric motors are so efficient. Still, kind of bonkers that our utility power grid can't compete effectively at delivering power versus say refining oil & shipping it around in tanker trucks.
- carlmr 5y ago
  >Good thing electric motors are so efficient. This should also be taken into account. Output power is what helps you get somewhere. I think with the gas car you maybe get 30% on average? With an electric maybe 80%? >kind of bonkers that our utility power grid can't compete effectively at delivering power versus say refining oil & shipping it around in tanker trucks. Supply and demand? In capitalism supply is usually just as good as it needs to be to meet demand. With growing electricity demand, the infrastructure has to improve. If not electricity becomes more expensive until someone finds that they can gain money from building better infrastructure. The issue here is mostly that you often get stuck in a local maximum when you've invested too much in one technology.
  - rektide 5y ago
    None of these words make me feel any different or better. The tough love sell conceals the sad sad truth. It really seems absurd to me that drilling out energy from the ground, shipping it, refining it, then transporting it again to gas station pumps has been half the price of what a lot of folks pay to get the same energy amounts sent to their homes. Powergrids should be an easy lock in win here for efficiency versus all this shipping shit, and that value should show up the bottom line quite obviously. We should be trying to improve generation costs, investing in improvement. Renewables, nuclear, improved & cleaner natural resource-based generation... it feels like there is work to do.