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So my mother did this to me once. She didn't pay him - he was a friend from her church. He committed me as a favor to her. I was actually in a pretty good place

by psyc 4y ago

So my mother did this to me once. She didn't pay him - he was a friend from her church. He committed me as a favor to her. I was actually in a pretty good place at that time mood-wise. 100% not a danger to self / others. But she thought it a clever way to get me gone without the guilt of putting me on the street. Neither said a word beforehand. Surprise! The feeling of betrayal was indescribable. They held me for a miserable month. The justification given by the hospital doc was I "Didn't have a plan." That last bit can be good or bad depending on their assessment of your plans. yes, I'm fortunate to have a very good doc now. I've had a few decent ones. Most could be replaced by a kiosk - take a quiz, dispense Big Pharma pills.

robocat 4y ago
> The justification given by the hospital doc was I "Didn't have a plan." Can you give more context? Generally if someone is suicidal, “having a plan” is not a good thing, because it is beyond a vague intent, and it is a very strong signal of danger. Depressed people are queried about plans to help judge the possibility of suicide: you imply that was the risk that your mother was worried about.
- psyc 4y ago
  A plan for where I would go after and how I would support myself. I wasn’t suicidal. My mother was annoyed that I was living at home without a job.
  - psyc 4y ago
    As for why she didn’t want me around, I’ll let Alanis Morrissette explain: “You reminded her so much of your father, so you were banished. And you wonder why you’re so hypersensitive and why you can’t trust anyone but us.”
- daniel-cussen 4y ago
  That's the chink in the armor right there, you're being super assumptive about his mother saying she was worried when obviously "you" have never met her. He's known her his whole life you get your impression of her from him and you think you know more about her than he does? Most charitable interpretation of what you said: her soul can be compressed down to a hundred bytes. That says everything.
daniel-cussen 4y ago
Yeah good docs aren't as incredibly rare as they seem from the wards, which they're not allowed into under "fuck the law" terms. Weird that they exist, I've had so many. Of course a good psych is like finding a ten dollar bill on the sidewalk, whereas a shrink is getting mugged. They don't have the same absolute value.
daniel-cussen 4y ago
So that's why I still like Hacker News, dude your suffering has worth, they didn't respect you, your rights, nothing, and it was wrong. Well maybe show don't tell, I have a letter that talks about my stay in a psych ward, 75 days, which seemed like 45 days because of the amnestic drugs, and the exact mistake was talking about it like they didn't want me to know to say it was "coercion", that I was being kept in "some kind of prison." But it's crazy, the "fuck the law" false incarceration doesn't end with just the act of it, and the refusal to allow even a Bible into the ward, it goes farther, like making me blind to lawyer advertisements I would love to reply to if only I could read them, they gave me banner blindness specifically for lawyer ads, like they didn't register until yesterday, at any rate, the "fuck the law" means they can keep you out of the courtroom forever. Forever. And nobody wants to look at your evidence, or hear your testimony, look at confessions, the level to which they treat your problem as unworthy of human attention is unreal. No wonder brain surgeons never get sued for malpractice by their own patients, they see it coming and they lobotimize them before they make it to the courtroom. I got lobotomized for precisely that reason, and it works like a charm, I have no idea how I'll ever get a lawyer to talk to me for more than an hour (it's not enough time), or being unable to tell the fact chronologically (again because I was conditioned to behave erratically in the presence of lawyers). I will say I am coherent in the presence of judges, so I did great in small claims, like the curse they put on me had a loophole they didn't think of, what if I write a letter to a judge? Can't figure out how to do that either. And I keep track of what was deleted, like knowledge of lobotomies, amnestic drugs, the words "torture" and "abduction", the definition of the Sapir-Whorf thesis (which must therefore be called a law, it applies to itself, and it was proven true as I recovered from this lobotomy), they also erased the words "personal injury lawyer" and "malpractice". It's like the only thing they care about really is that you never reach the courtroom and sue.

by psyc 4y ago

robocat 4y ago

> The justification given by the hospital doc was I "Didn't have a plan." Can you give more context? Generally if someone is suicidal, “having a plan” is not a good thing, because it is beyond a vague intent, and it is a very strong signal of danger. Depressed people are queried about plans to help judge the possibility of suicide: you imply that was the risk that your mother was worried about.

psyc 4y ago
A plan for where I would go after and how I would support myself. I wasn’t suicidal. My mother was annoyed that I was living at home without a job.
- psyc 4y ago
  As for why she didn’t want me around, I’ll let Alanis Morrissette explain: “You reminded her so much of your father, so you were banished. And you wonder why you’re so hypersensitive and why you can’t trust anyone but us.”
daniel-cussen 4y ago
That's the chink in the armor right there, you're being super assumptive about his mother saying she was worried when obviously "you" have never met her. He's known her his whole life you get your impression of her from him and you think you know more about her than he does? Most charitable interpretation of what you said: her soul can be compressed down to a hundred bytes. That says everything.

daniel-cussen 4y ago

Yeah good docs aren't as incredibly rare as they seem from the wards, which they're not allowed into under "fuck the law" terms. Weird that they exist, I've had so many. Of course a good psych is like finding a ten dollar bill on the sidewalk, whereas a shrink is getting mugged. They don't have the same absolute value.

daniel-cussen 4y ago

So that's why I still like Hacker News, dude your suffering has worth, they didn't respect you, your rights, nothing, and it was wrong. Well maybe show don't tell, I have a letter that talks about my stay in a psych ward, 75 days, which seemed like 45 days because of the amnestic drugs, and the exact mistake was talking about it like they didn't want me to know to say it was "coercion", that I was being kept in "some kind of prison." But it's crazy, the "fuck the law" false incarceration doesn't end with just the act of it, and the refusal to allow even a Bible into the ward, it goes farther, like making me blind to lawyer advertisements I would love to reply to if only I could read them, they gave me banner blindness specifically for lawyer ads, like they didn't register until yesterday, at any rate, the "fuck the law" means they can keep you out of the courtroom forever. Forever. And nobody wants to look at your evidence, or hear your testimony, look at confessions, the level to which they treat your problem as unworthy of human attention is unreal. No wonder brain surgeons never get sued for malpractice by their own patients, they see it coming and they lobotimize them before they make it to the courtroom. I got lobotomized for precisely that reason, and it works like a charm, I have no idea how I'll ever get a lawyer to talk to me for more than an hour (it's not enough time), or being unable to tell the fact chronologically (again because I was conditioned to behave erratically in the presence of lawyers). I will say I am coherent in the presence of judges, so I did great in small claims, like the curse they put on me had a loophole they didn't think of, what if I write a letter to a judge? Can't figure out how to do that either. And I keep track of what was deleted, like knowledge of lobotomies, amnestic drugs, the words "torture" and "abduction", the definition of the Sapir-Whorf thesis (which must therefore be called a law, it applies to itself, and it was proven true as I recovered from this lobotomy), they also erased the words "personal injury lawyer" and "malpractice". It's like the only thing they care about really is that you never reach the courtroom and sue.