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Maybe because you’re throwing some junk out here on HN, you can offer up a citation? Who says 1+1=2 is racist, exactly?

naoqj 4y ago
"hyperbole"
Tomte 4y ago
https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/is-it-racist-to-expect-black-kids?s=r https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/is-it-racist-to-expect-... https://twitter.com/Michael_Frisch_/status/1363543065986818054 https://twitter.com/Michael_Frisch_/status/13635430659868180...
- manicdee 4y ago
  Lots of words there with no evidence. The actual training teachers are receiving is that there are many ways to teach things like long division, and insisting on only using one method is not useful to students. As an example, when teaching multiples of 9 you shouldn’t just use rote learning but point out the internal checksum of multiples of nine (add up all the digits to get a single digit and you get 9, for the simple tables the first digit will be 1 less than the number being multiplied, so 4 x 9 is 36, 3 + 6 is 9, 5 x 9 is forty-something so working backwards 9 - 4 is 5, so 4 x 9 is 45). In addition there’s the “times ten minus one” method: 3 x 9 is the same as 3 x (10 - 1) so 30 - 3 is 27 (and add up the digits to make 9). Teachers need to be allowed to use multiple methods of instruction, and restricting them to only exactly what is in the syllabus is racist because then the only people who get the quality instruction are the rich who can afford out of school tutelage, ie: predominantly white populations due to institutionalised racism in the USA keeping non-white populations poorer than their mostly white neighbours. Yes, there are white people living in poverty but when you compare white to non-white populations in the same region they are still better off. The shorthand in the USA is that any policy which keeps poor people from success is racist because the rich/poor divide in the USA is predominantly along racial lines.
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  - panda88888 4y ago
    I agree with the multiple methods, but I believe that certain things in math are considered to be basic building blocks (such as single digits add/sub/mul/div) that should be memorized similar to in sports how certain movements are considered basic and are practiced until it becomes muscle memory. As for the difference in outcome of white vs non-white in poor neighborhoods, I feel there are more at play than institutionalized racism, but it is incredibly difficult to have a nuance discussion on the topic.
- bawolff 4y ago
  Not exactly the most compelling. It mentions a bunch of reasonable trends that have nothing to do with race (like teaching kids why a formula works over expecting them to blindly memorize everything) and then claiming that the reason this is being done is about race instead of the obvious reasons.

"hyperbole"

https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/is-it-racist-to-expect-black-kids?s=r https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/is-it-racist-to-expect-... https://twitter.com/Michael_Frisch_/status/1363543065986818054 https://twitter.com/Michael_Frisch_/status/13635430659868180...

manicdee 4y ago
Lots of words there with no evidence. The actual training teachers are receiving is that there are many ways to teach things like long division, and insisting on only using one method is not useful to students. As an example, when teaching multiples of 9 you shouldn’t just use rote learning but point out the internal checksum of multiples of nine (add up all the digits to get a single digit and you get 9, for the simple tables the first digit will be 1 less than the number being multiplied, so 4 x 9 is 36, 3 + 6 is 9, 5 x 9 is forty-something so working backwards 9 - 4 is 5, so 4 x 9 is 45). In addition there’s the “times ten minus one” method: 3 x 9 is the same as 3 x (10 - 1) so 30 - 3 is 27 (and add up the digits to make 9). Teachers need to be allowed to use multiple methods of instruction, and restricting them to only exactly what is in the syllabus is racist because then the only people who get the quality instruction are the rich who can afford out of school tutelage, ie: predominantly white populations due to institutionalised racism in the USA keeping non-white populations poorer than their mostly white neighbours. Yes, there are white people living in poverty but when you compare white to non-white populations in the same region they are still better off. The shorthand in the USA is that any policy which keeps poor people from success is racist because the rich/poor divide in the USA is predominantly along racial lines.
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- panda88888 4y ago
  I agree with the multiple methods, but I believe that certain things in math are considered to be basic building blocks (such as single digits add/sub/mul/div) that should be memorized similar to in sports how certain movements are considered basic and are practiced until it becomes muscle memory. As for the difference in outcome of white vs non-white in poor neighborhoods, I feel there are more at play than institutionalized racism, but it is incredibly difficult to have a nuance discussion on the topic.
bawolff 4y ago
Not exactly the most compelling. It mentions a bunch of reasonable trends that have nothing to do with race (like teaching kids why a formula works over expecting them to blindly memorize everything) and then claiming that the reason this is being done is about race instead of the obvious reasons.