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Minecraft? Roblox? VR Chat? What about the thousands of independent games made by kids and young adults that are created and posted to Itch.io and Steam every d

Minecraft? Roblox? VR Chat? What about the thousands of independent games made by kids and young adults that are created and posted to Itch.io and Steam every day? Does that not count for anything? >I'm making an open 3D action MMO engine to sort this out. Yes, I'm sure this will be the Unity killer that everyone is waiting for. rolls eyes

foobarian 4y ago
TBH this sounds exactly like Roblox. MMO being the key part there.
bullen 4y ago
None of those are source available with affordable commercial license. Minecraft is owned by Microsoft and has issues (does not run on ARM well and the Java/Bedrock are incompatible) Roblox is extortion and ugly. VR Chat is only VR. Neither scales. I'm trying my best, here is the status from 2 years back: http://talk.binarytask.com/task?id=5959519327505901449 http://talk.binarytask.com/task?id=5959519327505901449 Now I'm building the voxel world.
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  >VR Chat is only VR. This is incorrect. VR chat (and Rec Room) has a non-VR client
  - bullen 4y ago
    Ok, but what is the point of a non-VR client? VR does not blend well with non VR unless the headset is the camera! Last time I checked both of those where 1st person not 3rd?
    - mrguyorama 4y ago
      "Flat" VR chat is perfectly fine for plenty of users, including large streamers and content creators. You get slightly more awkward manipulation but truth be told, VR chat doesn't use the VR for anything more than immersion. VR blends perfectly fine with non-VR actually, and there are many games that let you play as VR in a non-VR lobby. Check out Paranormal Activity on steam. The game was designed as a normal mouse and keyboard video game, with awkward controls and a strong horror focus, but they added a VR option so if you want, you can feel fully immersed while being chased by evil ghosts and you can pee your pants in fear while your friends stuck with a normal screen are only moderately afraid. For the two games in question, the non-VR client lets you play homemade games and chat with your friends or strangers who have VR or also happen to play the non-VR version of either. It's literally just a different control method, like using TrackIR in a racing sim.

foobarian 4y ago

TBH this sounds exactly like Roblox. MMO being the key part there.

bullen 4y ago

None of those are source available with affordable commercial license. Minecraft is owned by Microsoft and has issues (does not run on ARM well and the Java/Bedrock are incompatible) Roblox is extortion and ugly. VR Chat is only VR. Neither scales. I'm trying my best, here is the status from 2 years back: http://talk.binarytask.com/task?id=5959519327505901449 http://talk.binarytask.com/task?id=5959519327505901449 Now I'm building the voxel world.

mrguyorama 4y ago
>VR Chat is only VR. This is incorrect. VR chat (and Rec Room) has a non-VR client
- bullen 4y ago
  Ok, but what is the point of a non-VR client? VR does not blend well with non VR unless the headset is the camera! Last time I checked both of those where 1st person not 3rd?
  - mrguyorama 4y ago
    "Flat" VR chat is perfectly fine for plenty of users, including large streamers and content creators. You get slightly more awkward manipulation but truth be told, VR chat doesn't use the VR for anything more than immersion. VR blends perfectly fine with non-VR actually, and there are many games that let you play as VR in a non-VR lobby. Check out Paranormal Activity on steam. The game was designed as a normal mouse and keyboard video game, with awkward controls and a strong horror focus, but they added a VR option so if you want, you can feel fully immersed while being chased by evil ghosts and you can pee your pants in fear while your friends stuck with a normal screen are only moderately afraid. For the two games in question, the non-VR client lets you play homemade games and chat with your friends or strangers who have VR or also happen to play the non-VR version of either. It's literally just a different control method, like using TrackIR in a racing sim.