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If you’re smart it’s a much better deal to live in the USA. It’s why you see so many Europeans move here and not the other way around. Europe is better if you’

If you’re smart it’s a much better deal to live in the USA. It’s why you see so many Europeans move here and not the other way around. Europe is better if you’re dumb as there are better social systems. You can just exist more easily there.

basisword 5y ago
I presume you're trolling but I much prefer my life to my higher paid US colleagues lives. I don't work a second more than I'm required. I get more holidays. Better parental leave. Can't be fired at will. Also requiring help from the welfare state has nothing to do with a persons intelligence. Sometimes there are massive recessions + unemployment...or global pandemics. Shit happens and when it does knowing that I'll be taken care of is worth a lot.
- nemo44x 5y ago
  Just stating an observation that way more people come to the USA for work than the other direction. This is simply data. Your feelings are anecdotal. My anecdotal evidence comes from my European friends here, sone from the greatest of social safety nets. The money is so insanely good here and they want to earn it.
hattmall 5y ago
That's unfortunately the reality of America, intelligence plus motivation are greatly rewarded. If you want to do anything more than exist on the standard scale it's considerably harder outside of the US.
bromuro 5y ago
I had the impression people don’t move from the US to Europe because they speak only English. In Berlin I’ve met many that gave up because of the language barriers. On the other side, I have friends regretting their move to the US - citing a workaholic culture, high living costs, lot of cars and shopping, no safety, etc.
- nemo44x 5y ago
  > On the other side, I have friends regretting their move to the US - citing a workaholic culture, high living costs, lot of cars and shopping, no safety, etc. Lol this isn’t true. These are things you’ve been told that simply aren’t necessarily true. People work similarly to euros. Professionals get paid significantly more, get as much or more time off, and essentially get free healthcare if you understood our model. But let’s spin it a bit: Things may cost more relative to the euro because the dollar has been so strong. We make much more income so things cost a bit more. Owning a car is awesome. Shopping is awesome. Only some sort of weird propaganda would convince someone that having freedom of travel and the ability to buy things is bad. No safety? You’re the guys with WW3 on your doorstep. Our entire culture is built on seeing the critical mistakes of Europe over the last 400 years and not repeating them. As for language barriers - why aren’t Americans flocking to London? It’s a far more important city than Berlin. It’s because the living is inferior to here if you can earn a living. Less pay, small houses, less to do, bad weather, etc. Fun to visit though
  - bromuro 5y ago
    I understand money and material wealth is very important for some people. Well, not everyone think this way. You can't buy happiness with money. Traveling and learning new languages may help to see things from another perspective.
throwaway675309 5y ago
Yeah safety nets are weak, screw our fellow man, I mean after all everyone on the entire earth is born genetically and socioeconomically tabula rasa, amirite guys? GATTICA GATTICA GATTICA!

basisword 5y ago

I presume you're trolling but I much prefer my life to my higher paid US colleagues lives. I don't work a second more than I'm required. I get more holidays. Better parental leave. Can't be fired at will. Also requiring help from the welfare state has nothing to do with a persons intelligence. Sometimes there are massive recessions + unemployment...or global pandemics. Shit happens and when it does knowing that I'll be taken care of is worth a lot.

nemo44x 5y ago
Just stating an observation that way more people come to the USA for work than the other direction. This is simply data. Your feelings are anecdotal. My anecdotal evidence comes from my European friends here, sone from the greatest of social safety nets. The money is so insanely good here and they want to earn it.

hattmall 5y ago

That's unfortunately the reality of America, intelligence plus motivation are greatly rewarded. If you want to do anything more than exist on the standard scale it's considerably harder outside of the US.

bromuro 5y ago

I had the impression people don’t move from the US to Europe because they speak only English. In Berlin I’ve met many that gave up because of the language barriers. On the other side, I have friends regretting their move to the US - citing a workaholic culture, high living costs, lot of cars and shopping, no safety, etc.

nemo44x 5y ago
> On the other side, I have friends regretting their move to the US - citing a workaholic culture, high living costs, lot of cars and shopping, no safety, etc. Lol this isn’t true. These are things you’ve been told that simply aren’t necessarily true. People work similarly to euros. Professionals get paid significantly more, get as much or more time off, and essentially get free healthcare if you understood our model. But let’s spin it a bit: Things may cost more relative to the euro because the dollar has been so strong. We make much more income so things cost a bit more. Owning a car is awesome. Shopping is awesome. Only some sort of weird propaganda would convince someone that having freedom of travel and the ability to buy things is bad. No safety? You’re the guys with WW3 on your doorstep. Our entire culture is built on seeing the critical mistakes of Europe over the last 400 years and not repeating them. As for language barriers - why aren’t Americans flocking to London? It’s a far more important city than Berlin. It’s because the living is inferior to here if you can earn a living. Less pay, small houses, less to do, bad weather, etc. Fun to visit though
- bromuro 5y ago
  I understand money and material wealth is very important for some people. Well, not everyone think this way. You can't buy happiness with money. Traveling and learning new languages may help to see things from another perspective.

throwaway675309 5y ago

Yeah safety nets are weak, screw our fellow man, I mean after all everyone on the entire earth is born genetically and socioeconomically tabula rasa, amirite guys? GATTICA GATTICA GATTICA!