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The American Dream is not about getting more for less, as in "most luxury for the least amount of effort." It's about having a shot at owning a business without

The American Dream is not about getting more for less, as in "most luxury for the least amount of effort." It's about having a shot at owning a business without the financial backing of a rich family [0], which is more like "most luxury for an insane amount of effort." [0] A lot of recent discussion centers on how many of the most successful US entrepreneurs come from privileged backgrounds, but you should not lose sight of the fact that literally every other country in the world will fare a lot worse in this regard. Many things are broken in the US, but no other place on Earth has lower barriers to starting your own LLC and hiring your first employee.

diordiderot 4y ago
> literally every other country in the world will fare a lot worse in this regard US is 27th place on economic mobility index soooo....
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- pempem 4y ago
  @Aerosmile I dont know that you need to look at Austria. You can just look at America over time. Mobility is getting harder and there's no real need to pretend it isn't
tcptomato 4y ago
This is r/shitamericanssay material.
hodgesrm 4y ago
The US is not a capitalist paradise. We moved a software company from the UK to a US Delaware Corp 2 years ago and it was a major headache involving substantial legal fees, accounting, employee benefits, and taxes. Texas interestingly has been the hardest to deal with--probably our biggest single accounting expense due to what seems to be antiquated tax management on their end. It was a lot easier doing business in the UK. We had relatively low accounting overhead, the laws were not hard to follow, and we didn't have to deal with having employees and customers sprinkled over a dozen state jurisdictions. We're fortunate to work in a growing and lucrative market, but it's not all peaches and cream.
- aerosmile 4y ago
  You're confusing accounting expenses and the cost of running a business. Even personal taxes are a pain the US. So, yes, doing your own corporate taxes in the US is likely not a good idea, especially if you hire people across several states. But the cost of an accountant is a minuscule cost compared to paying X% more across your entire payroll (not to mention other aspects).

diordiderot 4y ago

> literally every other country in the world will fare a lot worse in this regard US is 27th place on economic mobility index soooo....

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pempem 4y ago
@Aerosmile I dont know that you need to look at Austria. You can just look at America over time. Mobility is getting harder and there's no real need to pretend it isn't

tcptomato 4y ago

This is r/shitamericanssay material.

hodgesrm 4y ago

The US is not a capitalist paradise. We moved a software company from the UK to a US Delaware Corp 2 years ago and it was a major headache involving substantial legal fees, accounting, employee benefits, and taxes. Texas interestingly has been the hardest to deal with--probably our biggest single accounting expense due to what seems to be antiquated tax management on their end. It was a lot easier doing business in the UK. We had relatively low accounting overhead, the laws were not hard to follow, and we didn't have to deal with having employees and customers sprinkled over a dozen state jurisdictions. We're fortunate to work in a growing and lucrative market, but it's not all peaches and cream.

aerosmile 4y ago
You're confusing accounting expenses and the cost of running a business. Even personal taxes are a pain the US. So, yes, doing your own corporate taxes in the US is likely not a good idea, especially if you hire people across several states. But the cost of an accountant is a minuscule cost compared to paying X% more across your entire payroll (not to mention other aspects).