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this was exactly what I was worried about reading this article. The return to his parents seems like a terrible thing to celebrate without knowing what exactly

by riffic 5y ago

this was exactly what I was worried about reading this article. The return to his parents seems like a terrible thing to celebrate without knowing what exactly happened to motivate him to escape in 2019.

duxup 5y ago
To me that assumes something negative about the family.
- riffic 5y ago
  This would be a solid assumption to presume. edit: I read your reply and I'm going to stop engaging right here. Sometimes intuition is worth listening to.
  - duxup 5y ago
    What do you think you know about these people?
  - zdragnar 5y ago
    My brother is literally the best person I know. He has the patience of a stone, the compassion of a saint and bends over backwards to make sure his family's needs are met. His son is autistic, and will, given the slightest opportunity, walk out of the house and wander off. It's just something he does, no matter where he is or who he is with (local day cares refused to take him after awhile because they literally couldn't keep the kid safe from himself wandering or climbing after a certain point). I worry for my nephew, because he has literally no sense of self preservation, and he is growing fast. At some point, he may need to be put in a group home, because he is nearly his mother's size (she's fairly short anyway) and my brother is the primary breadwinner for the family. Don't wag your klep when you've nothing at all to go on about someone.
    - stuntkite 5y ago
      I think you should really spend more time with your nephew. ~~I deleted a bunch of shit. If you read that I'm sorry. Really, I know this stuff is hard.~~
      - zdragnar 5y ago
        > Can your "no preservation" nephew lie to cops for years and push a shopping cart and feed himself denying what his real name is when questioned. In his case, he doesn't comprehend spoken language enough to carry a conversation. He can answer some basic questions, and says a few words to explain his wants, but he couldn't tell you his own last name. He can memorize and very accurately reenact conversations in cartoons or YouTube videos well after seeing it (they found that out when he rather inappropriately started quoting Spaceballs at school, which he apparently watched at some point). As for this kid who disappeared for a few years? I don't know anything about him. I don't know anything about his parents, or his home life. Neither does the person I responded to, and neither do you. To say that this is a terrifying scenario is just projecting.
        stuntkite 5y ago
        I am so sorry. Please read my edit. I lost myself it's been a long day. I'm really sorry. Good luck man. I'm sure y'all are great people. I was a total. fuckin. prick. I am deeply sorry you had to read that.
        zdragnar 5y ago
        We're all human, I definitely get it. Even so, I appreciate the apology.
- stuntkite 5y ago
  TRIGGER WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault and physical violence in a very provocative manner. Only in the last paragraph noted by `~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*` and also put in italics to make it easier to avoid. - - - - - Yes exactly. He has been "lost" for 3 years. He did not want to just hit the road. Children like warm houses unless something very... very... wrong is going on. He was smart enough to make it this far and dodge getting his name picked up. This article glorifies returning him to caregivers AS AN ADULT and frames him like he's some mank moron. The family are likely to now, in perpetuity forever, have absolute power over him AS AN ADULT that can't be broken without the order of a judge; likely at a county level, if you want to know what that means... look it up, and it appears no one cares in the reporting. The family will be able to draw a caretaker paycheck from this too. Even if he does love them and was just... lost or something? The facts in this case are terrifying and it is spelled out in black and white. He would rather never have a name and freeze to death than see them again. We are, in this thread, I suspect, caring more than anyone anywhere does. This happens to so many people, every day. Lets talk about a pretty woman who I'd guess is neuro typical and is in the public eye for having broken a conservatorship... Britany Spears. Apply that to someone who doesn't have here fame and resources and just got called by the newspaper a slack jawed moron for having just wandered around and not died. He can stay alive and hide his name for 3 years on the street. I have a feeling he could write some shitty python scripts and make $300,000 a year... but now he's put into the hands of who did him wrong and there is a state paper trail and it's going to be functionally impossible to get him out of that if he wants to all while incentivizing his care takers to keep him looked at as an idiot so they can draw a check. I am not saying anyone involved feels that way or abuse has happened. I'm saying that the facts stated are happening and undoing the removal of agency with no question from this young man is unconscionable. Yes... This does assume something VERY negative about the family. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* If he is ever able to exercise his agency, we will never hear about it and it will take years. How did you spend your 18-38? Was it being beaten with appliance cords by a drunk raping uncle who is just so pissed about how you're such a spaz all the time? Yeah, I'm sure the wheels of justice will just sort this out and it's all fuckin' fine.
  - LeifCarrotson 5y ago
    He's not a minor anymore, he was 16 when he ran away 3 years ago... please tell me that matters?

by riffic 5y ago

duxup 5y ago

To me that assumes something negative about the family.

riffic 5y ago
This would be a solid assumption to presume. edit: I read your reply and I'm going to stop engaging right here. Sometimes intuition is worth listening to.
- duxup 5y ago
  What do you think you know about these people?
- zdragnar 5y ago
  My brother is literally the best person I know. He has the patience of a stone, the compassion of a saint and bends over backwards to make sure his family's needs are met. His son is autistic, and will, given the slightest opportunity, walk out of the house and wander off. It's just something he does, no matter where he is or who he is with (local day cares refused to take him after awhile because they literally couldn't keep the kid safe from himself wandering or climbing after a certain point). I worry for my nephew, because he has literally no sense of self preservation, and he is growing fast. At some point, he may need to be put in a group home, because he is nearly his mother's size (she's fairly short anyway) and my brother is the primary breadwinner for the family. Don't wag your klep when you've nothing at all to go on about someone.
  - stuntkite 5y ago
    I think you should really spend more time with your nephew. ~~I deleted a bunch of shit. If you read that I'm sorry. Really, I know this stuff is hard.~~
    - zdragnar 5y ago
      > Can your "no preservation" nephew lie to cops for years and push a shopping cart and feed himself denying what his real name is when questioned. In his case, he doesn't comprehend spoken language enough to carry a conversation. He can answer some basic questions, and says a few words to explain his wants, but he couldn't tell you his own last name. He can memorize and very accurately reenact conversations in cartoons or YouTube videos well after seeing it (they found that out when he rather inappropriately started quoting Spaceballs at school, which he apparently watched at some point). As for this kid who disappeared for a few years? I don't know anything about him. I don't know anything about his parents, or his home life. Neither does the person I responded to, and neither do you. To say that this is a terrifying scenario is just projecting.
      - stuntkite 5y ago
        I am so sorry. Please read my edit. I lost myself it's been a long day. I'm really sorry. Good luck man. I'm sure y'all are great people. I was a total. fuckin. prick. I am deeply sorry you had to read that.
        zdragnar 5y ago
        We're all human, I definitely get it. Even so, I appreciate the apology.
stuntkite 5y ago
TRIGGER WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault and physical violence in a very provocative manner. Only in the last paragraph noted by `~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*` and also put in italics to make it easier to avoid. - - - - - Yes exactly. He has been "lost" for 3 years. He did not want to just hit the road. Children like warm houses unless something very... very... wrong is going on. He was smart enough to make it this far and dodge getting his name picked up. This article glorifies returning him to caregivers AS AN ADULT and frames him like he's some mank moron. The family are likely to now, in perpetuity forever, have absolute power over him AS AN ADULT that can't be broken without the order of a judge; likely at a county level, if you want to know what that means... look it up, and it appears no one cares in the reporting. The family will be able to draw a caretaker paycheck from this too. Even if he does love them and was just... lost or something? The facts in this case are terrifying and it is spelled out in black and white. He would rather never have a name and freeze to death than see them again. We are, in this thread, I suspect, caring more than anyone anywhere does. This happens to so many people, every day. Lets talk about a pretty woman who I'd guess is neuro typical and is in the public eye for having broken a conservatorship... Britany Spears. Apply that to someone who doesn't have here fame and resources and just got called by the newspaper a slack jawed moron for having just wandered around and not died. He can stay alive and hide his name for 3 years on the street. I have a feeling he could write some shitty python scripts and make $300,000 a year... but now he's put into the hands of who did him wrong and there is a state paper trail and it's going to be functionally impossible to get him out of that if he wants to all while incentivizing his care takers to keep him looked at as an idiot so they can draw a check. I am not saying anyone involved feels that way or abuse has happened. I'm saying that the facts stated are happening and undoing the removal of agency with no question from this young man is unconscionable. Yes... This does assume something VERY negative about the family. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* If he is ever able to exercise his agency, we will never hear about it and it will take years. How did you spend your 18-38? Was it being beaten with appliance cords by a drunk raping uncle who is just so pissed about how you're such a spaz all the time? Yeah, I'm sure the wheels of justice will just sort this out and it's all fuckin' fine.
- LeifCarrotson 5y ago
  He's not a minor anymore, he was 16 when he ran away 3 years ago... please tell me that matters?