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> However, everybody has family to visit on the other side of the country twice a year. Relatively few people drive across the entire country twice per year. M

> However, everybody has family to visit on the other side of the country twice a year. Relatively few people drive across the entire country twice per year. Many Americans do drive several hours to visit their family. It takes basically one trip using a current long range EV (e.g., ~310 miles range) and modern HVDC charging to rid yourself of these concerns. A 9h (~500 mile) trip only requires about an hour of HVDC charging. You'll need to stop for 30 minutes anyway unless you're on some kind of cannonball run.

phtrivier 5y ago
Fair enough, I should have said "across country/state" (speaking from France.)
robocat 5y ago
> You'll need to stop for 30 minutes anyway Except that on the holidays, there will not be enough chargers, so the “30 minute stop” is an ideal that simply cannot be reached under peak holiday conditions. Booking a charger could make things predictable, but it can’t solve the problem of not enough chargers available during peak periods.
- matthewdgreen 5y ago
  Have you experienced this? I haven't.
  - phtrivier 5y ago
    Chicken and egg problem: there aren't enough people with EVs yet for it to become a problem. What scares me is the physical limitation of the highway stop area. The _gas_ stations there are already way past capacity on a few strategic days of the year. French people don't like waiting 20m to get gas on August 15th, but at least once they're done, filling up is 5m. I don't think any TV is going to resist filming infuriated would-be-holliday-goers burning under the sun while they wait an hour or two to fill their batteries. The first summer it arrives will be _very_ hard for the EV industry. Also, those "highway areas" are owned by... gas companies. So will they put their best will into making sure the EV-holliday experience is top-notch (maybe ramping up charging capacity with portable batteries during the summer ?) Or will they let the experience be hellish, look at the number of EV stagnating, and lobby like hell to move the ICE bans further to the future ?
  - robocat 5y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfUJCWRFjig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfUJCWRFjig

phtrivier 5y ago

Fair enough, I should have said "across country/state" (speaking from France.)

robocat 5y ago

> You'll need to stop for 30 minutes anyway Except that on the holidays, there will not be enough chargers, so the “30 minute stop” is an ideal that simply cannot be reached under peak holiday conditions. Booking a charger could make things predictable, but it can’t solve the problem of not enough chargers available during peak periods.

matthewdgreen 5y ago
Have you experienced this? I haven't.
- phtrivier 5y ago
  Chicken and egg problem: there aren't enough people with EVs yet for it to become a problem. What scares me is the physical limitation of the highway stop area. The _gas_ stations there are already way past capacity on a few strategic days of the year. French people don't like waiting 20m to get gas on August 15th, but at least once they're done, filling up is 5m. I don't think any TV is going to resist filming infuriated would-be-holliday-goers burning under the sun while they wait an hour or two to fill their batteries. The first summer it arrives will be _very_ hard for the EV industry. Also, those "highway areas" are owned by... gas companies. So will they put their best will into making sure the EV-holliday experience is top-notch (maybe ramping up charging capacity with portable batteries during the summer ?) Or will they let the experience be hellish, look at the number of EV stagnating, and lobby like hell to move the ICE bans further to the future ?
- robocat 5y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfUJCWRFjig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfUJCWRFjig