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I come from Ubuntu and then Debian. Debian is the distro I know best (because Ubuntu from years ago is much more similar than today's Debian than today's Ubuntu

by jraph 5y ago

I come from Ubuntu and then Debian. Debian is the distro I know best (because Ubuntu from years ago is much more similar than today's Debian than today's Ubuntu). It's also the distro I use on servers. However, I've been using openSUSE Tumbleweed (KDE edition) for 5 years on laptops now and I think this is the one that gives the most polished experience. That's because of several things such as: - KDE is up to date. And each new version is strictly better and more polished than the previous one, and that has been true for years - One-click install actually works, even for software in repositories you haven't configured yet, and foreign repositories are way easier to use than PPAs. - YaST is good for the occasional thing I can't bother to learn to do from the command line - Zypper is very good too. And allow you to interactively chose solutions when something goes wrong instead of failing fast like apt. - it is a rolling release with both the polish and the software catalogue of a regular distribution. There's no unsupported AUR repository to add and manage for widespread software, it's usually already in the core repositories. - new software version on Linux desktop matters. For instance, today I (finally!!) have flawless pinch zoom both with the touchpad and the touchscreen, both on X and Wayland. Many distributions don't seem to have it yet. I keep a Debian systemd container for the occasional thing that's easier to install on Debian, or to work around the occasional glitch (for instance Meld is currently broken for me on openSUSE Tumbleweed but it works fine on Debian Bullseye). What drew me to openSUSE is the difficulty to have up to date KDE software on Debian. Had Debian have a current KDE repository, I would probably have never discovered openSUSE. On Ubuntu you can use Neon, but Ubuntu is annoying because of Snap and stuff (if you are going out of your way to package something, just use goddam Debian packages, not some half-arsed container technologies depending on a service that runs proprietary software and that does not distinguish between free and non free software). Also openSUSE's integration is really good and seems more stable than KDE Neon. So, Debian on servers and openSUSE on desktops for me.

scns 5y ago
Have to agree with pretty much everything you wrote. > There's no unsupported AUR repository to add and manage for widespread software, it's usually already in the core repositories. There is some software that is missing, but you can get it with OPI from OBS, often times pulling from repositories by SUSE. https://github.com/openSUSE/opi https://github.com/openSUSE/opi
andrewshadura 5y ago
If you want to have KDE up-to-date in Debian, the best way to help is to join the packaging team.
- jraph 5y ago
  I hope my previous comment does not feel entitled. There are a lot of ways one can help the free software ecosystem. One cannot be everywhere neither. There are a lot of things I'd like to do if I had more time and energy. Though not moving too fast is one of the best features of Debian.

by jraph 5y ago

scns 5y ago

Have to agree with pretty much everything you wrote. > There's no unsupported AUR repository to add and manage for widespread software, it's usually already in the core repositories. There is some software that is missing, but you can get it with OPI from OBS, often times pulling from repositories by SUSE. https://github.com/openSUSE/opi https://github.com/openSUSE/opi

andrewshadura 5y ago

If you want to have KDE up-to-date in Debian, the best way to help is to join the packaging team.

jraph 5y ago
I hope my previous comment does not feel entitled. There are a lot of ways one can help the free software ecosystem. One cannot be everywhere neither. There are a lot of things I'd like to do if I had more time and energy. Though not moving too fast is one of the best features of Debian.