>To a degree you're right, but it's a somewhat navel-gazing point. With respect, nonsense. My point is not ""free speech is complicated, there are exceptions"

>To a degree you're right, but it's a somewhat navel-gazing point. With respect, nonsense. My point is not ""free speech is complicated, there are exceptions".* This is not about shouting fire in a theatre. It's about sloganized thinking. This then resolves to high-level, half baked "solutions" like adopting "constitutional free speech" or whatnot. The laws used to determine if you go to jail are not suitable for determining what's allowable to say at work. You can legally tell "you suck" at The Rock on the street, but if you do it at a restaurant they will throw you out. Etc. Etc. Currently, for all the idealistic takes about free speech online, there is nothing of practical use circulating. No protocol, pledge or method that twitter or any other site can adopt. Free speech is currently an extremely vapid debate, all the worse for its shrill spectacle Digital freedoms closely were at a high point 15-20 years ago. The WWW meant that mass digital communication was via a free and open protocol. Concepts like Wikipedia succeeded. Linux. OSS generally. Those came with thought out, sometimes complex frameworks and philosophical ideas about freedoms.. eg FOSS. The current free speech "drive" is, by comparison, sludge.