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I'm betting they are probably less nutritious too.

chmod600 5y ago
I've suspected for a long time that we are missing major stuff from out diet due to changes in both the plants and animals we eat. I look at fruit in the grocery store and it just looks unnatural to me.
- inter_netuser 5y ago
  Well, we are at the point where farmers have to add nutrients to soil.
- derbOac 5y ago
  Studies have found decreases over time, from the mid 20th century, to now, in vitamins and minerals in fruits and vegetables. It's due to changes in varieties, soil depletion, and increased atmospheric CO2. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/vanishing-nutrients/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/vanishing-... https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/09/13/food-nutrients-carbon-dioxide-000511/ https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/09/13/food-nutrie... There is some evidence sugar content has increased, from varietal changes, but that's about it.
rayiner 5y ago
People who talk about whether food is “nutritious” are like anti-vaxxers. There’s no scientific basis to these ideas, just feels.
- BiteCode_dev 5y ago
  Yet you don't provide any evidence for your bold, asbolutist, and franckly, insulting, claim. Hence I'd say this very form of comment is closer to the proverbial facebook mum style, than somebody suggesting "I'm betting". But allow me to actually provide some hints that, while not able to remove all doubt about the matter, nevertheless show such a theory is not an undeserving question, nor born from an irrational mind: https://journals.ashs.org/downloadpdf/journals/hortsci/44/1/article-p15.pdf https://journals.ashs.org/downloadpdf/journals/hortsci/44/1/...
- MathCodeLove 5y ago
  What are you trying to say here? That nutrition doesn't exist? It's anti-science to state that an apple has more nutritional value than a potato chip? Specifically what the parent is referencing is the density of nutrients per unit of meat. Are you saying that all meat is uniform in nutrient density? I'm genuinely flabbergasted by your supremely odd take on this situation.
  - rayiner 5y ago
    What “nutrients” are you talking about? Vague unspecific references to “nutrients” is a red flag that you’re talking to an anti-vax type.
    - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
      Vague unspecific references to anti-vaxing are to me a red-flag that somebody tries to win a debate without having to provide any argument for ones opinion, even when answered approprietly in another comment.
    - steve_adams_86 5y ago
      Wanting more information about nutrition is not comparable to being opposed to vaccines. Nutrition is an area of study which lacks a lot of information. Even as time goes on and agriculture changes, the data we have about the food we consume appears to be out of date. There are many other factors we’re just beginning to become aware of with implications we haven’t begun to unravel. Nutritional science and the data we have today is completely acceptable to question. Just about everything is, but nutrition seems especially open.

I've suspected for a long time that we are missing major stuff from out diet due to changes in both the plants and animals we eat. I look at fruit in the grocery store and it just looks unnatural to me.

inter_netuser 5y ago
Well, we are at the point where farmers have to add nutrients to soil.
derbOac 5y ago
Studies have found decreases over time, from the mid 20th century, to now, in vitamins and minerals in fruits and vegetables. It's due to changes in varieties, soil depletion, and increased atmospheric CO2. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/vanishing-nutrients/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/vanishing-... https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/09/13/food-nutrients-carbon-dioxide-000511/ https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/09/13/food-nutrie... There is some evidence sugar content has increased, from varietal changes, but that's about it.

rayiner 5y ago

People who talk about whether food is “nutritious” are like anti-vaxxers. There’s no scientific basis to these ideas, just feels.

BiteCode_dev 5y ago
Yet you don't provide any evidence for your bold, asbolutist, and franckly, insulting, claim. Hence I'd say this very form of comment is closer to the proverbial facebook mum style, than somebody suggesting "I'm betting". But allow me to actually provide some hints that, while not able to remove all doubt about the matter, nevertheless show such a theory is not an undeserving question, nor born from an irrational mind: https://journals.ashs.org/downloadpdf/journals/hortsci/44/1/article-p15.pdf https://journals.ashs.org/downloadpdf/journals/hortsci/44/1/...
MathCodeLove 5y ago
What are you trying to say here? That nutrition doesn't exist? It's anti-science to state that an apple has more nutritional value than a potato chip? Specifically what the parent is referencing is the density of nutrients per unit of meat. Are you saying that all meat is uniform in nutrient density? I'm genuinely flabbergasted by your supremely odd take on this situation.
- rayiner 5y ago
  What “nutrients” are you talking about? Vague unspecific references to “nutrients” is a red flag that you’re talking to an anti-vax type.
  - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
    Vague unspecific references to anti-vaxing are to me a red-flag that somebody tries to win a debate without having to provide any argument for ones opinion, even when answered approprietly in another comment.
  - steve_adams_86 5y ago
    Wanting more information about nutrition is not comparable to being opposed to vaccines. Nutrition is an area of study which lacks a lot of information. Even as time goes on and agriculture changes, the data we have about the food we consume appears to be out of date. There are many other factors we’re just beginning to become aware of with implications we haven’t begun to unravel. Nutritional science and the data we have today is completely acceptable to question. Just about everything is, but nutrition seems especially open.